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Croatia women's national junior handball team

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These are multiple national junior handball teams. There does not appear to be a notability guideline within

significant coverage
, so the teams do not appear to be notable.

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Robert McClenon (talk) 05:05, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete all I'm pretty sure any teams in a junior league aren't notable. Unless there is something super fantastical about them. More so with these though because they seem to lack in-depth coverage in multiple reliable sources. --Adamant1 (talk) 06:42, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all As per nom, fails GNG. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:47, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Strong Keep As one of the biggest team sports in the world all junior handball national teams are important. Else you have to delete all junior national teams of all team sports such as basketball, ice hockey etc. It looks for me that again some Users form the USA how doesn't know handball want to deleted all handball articles. If I google
    Hungary national junior handball team i get 5070 google news results. For comparison if I google Hungary men's national under-18 basketball team I get 1160 Google News results and for Hungary national under-21 football team
    I get 5330 results.
You see the handball youth teams are in the same prominence as football. If you don't questions all youth national teams of all team sports I think this is again an attack of some User of the USA against handball because they don't know it better. So please stop AFD handball articles if you don't know the significant of the sport. I also don't put AFD's one various American football articles because I never heard of them. Malo95 (talk) 07:34, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep/merge I expect that there's more coverage to be found in places such as "The Ocho" but if I dip into that I'm more more likely to start writing about sports that I understand, such as chess boxing, death diving or stone skipping. As notability is a guideline which counsels the use of common sense, let's try that instead.
Handball is clearly a respectable, organised sport and it appears to be quite popular in countries such as Croatia. Such sports are obviously divided into different classes such as women/junior and it would not be
neutral to focus on only some of them, such as adult men. The pages seem to have have constructed in a systematic, tabular fashion and that seems reasonably sensible. What's missing is an umbrella article such as Croatian handball or Handball in Croatia
which will provide some context and prose to explain the various tables.
The most applicable policy here seems to be
WP:ATD
, "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page."
Andrew🐉(talk) 09:27, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment With little research I found in a few minutes many sources for the Croatian, Hungarian and Icelandic teams. I've add them to the articles. In the evening I'll add sources for the other teams. I found many sources so far. For me it looks like all junoir handball teams will pass GNG. Malo95 (talk) 09:33, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep I only looked at Iceland and found ample coverage of its various junior handball teams.[1][2][3][4][5]. Were any attempts made to look for sources, per
    WP:BIAS. Alvaldi (talk) 09:48, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep of course I have create these articles as a simple entries ok, there is a lack of some sources I agree, for exm players, coaches ext.. I will add it by time, but remember these articles are new and need some patient for development hopefully to reach a positive consensus.

Handball is an olympic game sport, That we should respect this fact. Thanks. 23:40, 9 November 2020 Talk

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I'd support that. There should really be a clause in
WP:NSPORT about it. Currently all it has is the thing about players of Gaelic games that are handballers. Which clearly isn't adequate. --Adamant1 (talk) 22:26, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply
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