Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dave Min

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The result was redirect to California's 45th congressional district#2018 Midterm Election. – Joe (talk) 17:50, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Min

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The relevant notability standards here would be either

WP:PROF, and I don't think he meets either one. Congressional candidates aren't notable for their candidacy alone, and I'm not seeing PROF here either. Marquardtika (talk) 02:57, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Redirect to
    WP:POLITICIAN. Such redirects should be and very often have been standard practice for biographies of unelected political candidates. This biography was created a few weeks after he declared his candidacy in an obvious effort to promote that candidacy. All of the independent sources were published after he became a candidate and are mostly routine local articles much like every single serious Congressional candidate receives. Such biographies are targets for disruptive political operatives, both paid and volunteer. This article has been edited by a paid staffer of a rival campaign. There are well over 1000 Congressional candidates in the upcoming U.S. elections and tens of thousands more in state level elections. If we open that floodgate, we will be fighting ten thousand battles simultaneously. These candidates should be covered, briefly, in balanced articles about individual political races that treat all candidates neutrally. If Min wins his race for Congress, the biography should be recreated then. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:21, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Disclosure: I tried to redirect this article and was reverted. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:22, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. MT TrainTalk 10:06, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. MT TrainTalk 10:06, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. MT TrainTalk 10:06, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BrittonBurdick has been identified by Cullen328 as an employee of a rival campaign. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 22:35, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's true and I added that disclaimer to the relevant article's talk page. There have already been multiple edits from Min's team attempting to editorialize the article in ways that either flatter Min or discredit his opponents. That is why I think a redirect/deletion would be the best option. I agree with the other editors that suggest reinstating the article in November might make sense if Min wins the election.BrittonBurdick (talk) 03:41, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I want to thank Cullen328 for his assistance in helping me avoid an edit war and shepherding the recommendation to redirect this page. I am in agreement, with users who recommend keeping this page, but I am a voter in the 45th Congressional District, and I have met all the candidates. I'm also probably the person responsible for having this page removed, if that is the outcome, because I'm the one who brought the egregious edits to everyone's attention, so I am not weighing in. I especially want to thank Dr. Fleischman for his extensive edits to help maintain a neutral tone on the page, and want to thank ♥ L'Origine du monde ♥ and others for their contributions. But I also want to admonish BrittonBurdick who rather disingenuously wrote "I've done my best to revert promotional editorialization but have a hunch it will continue to happen through June 5th" and then went on to insert yet another highly biased opinion without first discussing it on the talk page. He's the reason we're having this discussion. Gbonline (talk) 20:30, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect for now. (Maybe I should abstain...we have the same employer and there are four Dave Min campaign signs on the block where I live. Feel free to disregard if you think that makes for too much of a COI.) For now, the coverage appears to be only about his campaign (usually considered non-passing of
    WP:PROF. If he makes it through the primary and then wins the general, he will become notable, or maybe we can look back at all this later and see lasting interest in his campaign that makes it notable even if he doesn't win. But there's no hurry and for now I think it's better not to open the floodgates of "this person got their campaign covered in the newspaper so they're notable". —David Eppstein (talk) 05:05, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply
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And yet, we have plenty of evidence of him passing
WP:BASIC. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 18:31, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply
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I don't agree with that statement. The sources you posted are good ones but don't, in my reading, proving lasting notability. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:46, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I take it you're referring to
WP:SUSTAINED? --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 20:18, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply
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