Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Essential Mixes (Avril Lavigne album)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The consensus of this discussion is that there is insufficient sourcing for an article at this time. I am happy to userfy this article if someone wants to hold on to it and add sources if they appear. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 20:13, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Essential Mixes (Avril Lavigne album)

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This album does not appear to be an official release by Avril Lavigne. Her website and her record label (RCA) don't mention it at all. In fact, the Sony CMG website has recently removed it from their own website. The ONLY place this cd can be found seems to be amazon.co.uk. Whether it's a real album or not, it is clearly not a notable one. ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 23:29, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Unless the artist put their stamp on it, remix albums are almost universally unnotable. No sources and no official logos even on the
    chatter) 01:44, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. — Gongshow Talk 04:58, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep for now, it has not had a chance to establish notability, hasn't even been released yet, and has 6 acoustic songs that are not remixes. Apparently Sony CMG is releasing a lot of "essential mixes" albums on September 20th, like Timberlake, Kylie Minogue, Usher... take a look here. It is possible, with such high profile artists included in this series that a month from now, these compilations may be notable (I understand the futility in may and not had a chance, mind you). - Theornamentalist (talk) 13:11, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Changed to delete per discussion, but I would still suggest incubation in the case that it is released, if not, we can always rebuild it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theornamentalist (talk • contribs) 11:08, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete – There is no proof that the album is even being released, especially if its own distributor removed it from its own website. There has been no coverage on the release, no statement by the artist, no statement by the distributor or manufacturer or label, no reason for its existence. As for waiting for the article to become notable, that would go against anything I've ever learned on Wikipedia being a viable tertiary source of information for only notable topics. Notability should be established first, and then the article can be reinstated. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 04:19, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This article is an official album that will relase by Sony BMG. Vitor Mazuco Msg 19:43, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply
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  • To Quote
    WP:NALBUMS - "generally, an album should not have an independent article until its title, track listing and release date have all been publicly confirmed by the artist or their record label." This information has neither been confirmed by the artist nor their record label--which is not the record label this CD is possibly being released through--Sony CMG. Best policy in favor of deletion here. ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 15:45, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Comment - You're not understanting about it, this is an official album, that will relase by Sony BMG, please see here and here, will you see that source are good and in fact is really this album. Vitor Mazuco Msg 16:12, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was looking for those Vitor! well at least the first link is promising - Theornamentalist (talk) 16:48, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your second link doesn't have anything about it - searches on the site give this and this. The first link, from "BRPress", doesn't quote any official source for its information. If Sony had this on their website but have taken it off, I think BRPress in Brazil may be behind the times rather than ahead of them. There isn't enough here to satisfy
    WP:NALBUMS - wait until it is actually released and acquires some independent comment. JohnCD (talk) 16:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Eh, I've begun to lose interest in this. For the record, the Portuguese site states that the release date has not been set for the album yet, but is due by October. This may be why it has not been included with the upcoming release of the 7 other "essential mixes" (some of which have articles on WP) Hopefully, my final words on the matter:
  1. If this is in fact an arguement of
    hammer
    resilient. It has cover artwork, a tracklisting, approximate release date (with.... controversy!!) If it should be deleted because the release is between a month and two months away, besides the other information we have at hand which opposes the criteria for deletion... delete it. It will be rebuilt before you know it.
  2. If this is a matter of notability or
    WP:CRYSTAL), notable artist. That's what they are riding on, that's what "Essential Mixes" is riding on. - Theornamentalist (talk) 17:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Ha Ok, my Portuguese is not as good as my Spanish, which is... not that good. ha Anyway, I'll put those for now. And what I dislike most about this is my personal desire to keep albums/EP's like these, but my need for consistency, which must abide by current policy... - Theornamentalist (talk) 18:39, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Portuguese (actually Brazilian) site does say 20 Sep, but I wouldn't call that "confirmed" as they give no source; yes, it may pass
    References are not optional. JohnCD (talk) 18:58, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply
    ]

You're are so nut. I quit this article. That's why i don't contribute here(wiki-en). Vitor Mazuco Msg 18:25, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey now. Wikipedia is based greatly on discussion, but that means you need to be open to any outcome. If this article is deleted, it doesn't mean it won't return in the future. It's the notability we're arguing about. If and when the album is released, it may or may not gain greater notability. If it does, then the article can be reinstated. There is no reason to take things so personally. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 20:15, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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