Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gevrik

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The result was delete. plicit 23:44, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gevrik

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Not a notable style of cheese, more likely a non-notable product made by a single producer. — HTGS (talk) 22:27, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. — HTGS (talk) 22:27, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Products-related deletion discussions. — HTGS (talk) 22:27, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The cheese is notable being covered in the following books: Gourmet Cornwall and Great British Cheeses. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:37, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neither of these books constitute
    WP:SIGCOV, and at this point I'm getting sick of your entitled attitude. First you DEPROD the page without comment, and now you leave other editors do the real work of finding, reading or adding these sources. I sincerely urge you to reconsider what you are adding to the Project by participating in this way. — HTGS (talk) 23:12, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • I understand and respect
    WP:NEXIST
    . My issue is not that you have broken any rules, but that you are being unhelpful in your edits.
Whether the coverage passes SIGCOV is a debate I'm happy to entertain, but at this point I think we need input from other parties. — HTGS (talk) 23:39, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I should also add that I suspect this page has been created or kept for
    promotional or advertising purposes. That the tone of the article is promotional shouldn't matter in order to determine whether to delete, but I suspect this page in any form would serve only to promote a product that is otherwise non-notable. — HTGS (talk) 23:03, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • I don't have anything against Gevrik, and I'm sure it's a delightful cheese that maybe one day I will have the pleasure of trying. That "it's just a cheese like many others" is certainly not evidence of its notability. My efforts here are to simply maintain an encyclopaedia. In keeping this project of ours, it is worth considering what should not be kept on Wikipedia, as well as what we do keep. Please check in with these guidelines on encyclopaedic content for more detail. — HTGS (talk) 23:39, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really remember the history, I probably added it for Articles for Creation, or following a red link or something. No particular interest or connection to British cheeses here. :) Stevage 22:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Both references are dead links, and I cannot find anything about this cheese other than the fact that it exists. Does not meet
    WP:GNG in any way. LizardJr8 (talk) 23:54, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Redirect to List of British cheeses#Soft and semi-soft cheeses, where it is already included. As stated by the nom, this appears to be a type of cheese made by a single manufacturer, and has very little coverage that establishes anything more than its existence. Of the two sources provided by Andrew above, the coverage in Great British Cheeses is not bad, and should definitely be added to the main British cheese list as a source. The "coverage" in Gourmet Cornwall, however, is literally just a four word description and a picture. Rorshacma (talk) 16:57, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Yeah, after thinking about it more, and seeing the arguments made after mine, I'm changing to straight up deletion. As the List of British cheeses article says itself, there are over 700 named British cheeses, and so there needs to be better inclusion criteria than "brief coverage in one OK source" to be listed there. Rorshacma (talk) 23:52, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: per nom, already exist at List of British cheeses#Soft and semi-soft cheeses , no need for separate article, fails WP:GNG
    talk) 19:52, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • I agree with your and Rorshacma’s suggestion in theory, but what is the inclusion criteria for List of British cheeses? I would have thought they should be bluelinked? I found this page from Goat cheese, where too many non-notable cheeses were cluttering a list there (and a list that seemed better suited to cheese styles than cheese brands). It’s possible that a redirect would be a harmless resolution here, even if Gevrik were later removed from that list, but I thought I should raise the question anyway. — HTGS (talk) 21:58, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I would think the List of British cheeses would be limited at least to those made by multiple cheesemakers, not a single producer's unique product that is moreover discontinued. Reywas92Talk 23:46, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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