Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heléne Huby

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:41, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Heléne Huby

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Non-notable business executive. Sources are all about the company raising money, or primary sources. Nothing additional found, beyond linked in and the like. Oaktree b (talk) 18:18, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Oaktree b (talk) 18:18, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Mathematics, and Germany. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:10, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The sources present do not establish notability, and the article seems like an advertisement. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:33, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep More women need to be included in Wikipedia page. This women is a mathematician, rocket scientist as well space technologist which I'm sure Wikipedia are interested in this kind of people. Google search has shown that there are plenty independent secondary sources that talked about her fully with significant coverage. Moreover, there are numerous scientific search about on space would make her notable.102.91.4.50 (talk) 10:51, 10 June 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.91.5.242 (talk) [reply]
Keep Hélène Huby plays for the european space travel a similar role like Elon Musk in USA. --Allexkoch (talk) 08:49, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Allexkoch, have you got some independant sources that back up that claim? -Kj cheetham (talk) 19:53, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Look here and here its ESA I think its independant. --Allexkoch (talk) 08:06, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - I might be missing something, but neither of those actually mention Huby herself. They mention The Exploration Company, but ESA is certainly not independant when talking about what contacts it signs. -Kj cheetham (talk) 10:22, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      - Helene Huby "is" The Exploration Company like Elon Musk "is" Space X. --Allexkoch (talk) 09:14, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
        There's no need for articles for both Helene Huby and The Exploration Company then. Elon Musk is clearly also notable beyond Space X. -Kj cheetham (talk) 09:30, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails
WP:GNG. The person who loves reading (talk) 16:39, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Not convinced by the sourcing for the moment, but redirecting to
WP:ATD. —Kusma (talk) 19:49, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Redirect to
WP:TOOSOON. -Kj cheetham (talk) 10:24, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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~~Keep~~ here is another independent source (in german), where the relation between SpaceX The Exploration Company and Helene Huby is "explained". --Allexkoch (talk) 09:03, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You have already made one "keep" vote above. Your source says little about Huby other than "former Airbus manager who currently manages TEC". —Kusma (talk) 10:36, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep If you make Google search about I can find numerous independent secondary reliable sources such as Bloomberg News [[1]],BFM Business, International Austronautical Federation [[2]] and other German Independent sources mainly talking about her which can establish notability.
102.91.5.168 (talk) 11:27, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Neither of your examples is a secondary reliable source, though. —Kusma (talk) 12:32, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Remember, each participant can only offer one bolded "vote".
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:27, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - see the German Wikipedia article -- it's much longer and has many more references: de:Hélène Huby

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 05:32, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I just looked at a translation of the German article. It's got some puffery. There is one substantial German-language article cited that's about Heléne Huby. I will let others read and decide for themselves whether it's "independent" -- it's a bit puffy (at least after translation). The German article mostly cites articles about The Exploration Company.

I'm still researching but leaning to redirect and merge to Ms. Ruby's company.--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 17:08, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The German article survived an AfD just a month ago:

de:Wikipedia:Löschkandidaten/28. April 2023#Hélène Huby (bleibt)

On closer examination, the Germans don't have an independent article on The Exploration Company - it's a redirect to Ms. Ruby's article.

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 17:23, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and Redirect to The Exploration Company. Any independent material about Ms. Ruby herself can be put in a section about the CEO. At a later date, there may be more coverage to justify an article just about Ms. Ruby. If someone finds more coverage in reliable sources, please ping me.--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 17:29, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. There seems to be equal support for Delete, Keep and Merge/Redirect.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:51, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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