Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Helsing Junction, Washington

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The result was delete‎. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:29, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Helsing Junction, Washington

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It's been a little slow, so I'm going to AFD this declined prod. I've had some free time so I've kinda beat this dead mule to death, and will pass the carcass to AFD.

Helsing Junction is a railroad junction, and like many of these it had a post office.

The article itself has two sources: GNIS (no contesting it unreliablity) and Thurston County Place Names, which states it is a rail junction and mentions settlers but avoids committing on whether they live there. There is a picture of "Independence Rail yard at Helsing Junction". I can certainly understand how an editor in a hurry could turn this entry into a town. It's entry also adds "See Independence" implying this is in that place.

In terms of what the local newspapers say: This news article (2002) from the talk page discussion [1] describes it as the place that Rochester used to be known as. The reader will need to lift a little here as I'm unable to provide a readily available link.

The above article is about a church's 100th anniversary, and a similar article was also written about this church on the occasion of it 70th(1972). [2] It states the church was built about 3 miles from Helsing Junction which it says is at Independence.

Just based on this, this article ought to be merged/redirected with Independence or Rochester, I'm leaning toward Independence. But that should be a discussion in this AFD.

Here is a temporal sampling of some further articles that I think show this is only a junction: 1964 [3], [4]; 1923 [5] mentioned in a news report from Independence. James.folsom (talk) 21:04, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. James.folsom (talk) 21:04, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:16, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete GBook hits are almost entirely rail-related, except for a few having to do with geology. The cited placenames work his a picture of the station, but nothing indicates it's in a town. Mangoe (talk) 03:08, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Already PROD'd so Soft Deletion is not an option.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:50, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This junction is in Independence, Washington, so I wanted to say just merge there, but really Independence is barely more than a named rural community that itself should probably be deleted or merged. I suspect that the later church news clip assigned it to Rochester because by then they had forgotten Independence existed.James.folsom (talk) 23:12, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Doesn't appear to be a legally recognised place. Desertarun (talk) 11:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.