Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/If I Can't Have You (Kelly Clarkson song)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy deletion. -

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If I Can't Have You (Kelly Clarkson song)

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not notible, only charted on the Bubbling Under chart, was never a single and is not being considered for a single that anyne knows of. Has only been mentioned on twitter as a possible, making the article a crystal ball Alan - talk 22:22, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:16, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails
WP:NSONGS, the sourced reviews are trivial mentions of articles about the entire album, the song is not sourced as being the next single from Kelly Clarkson and it barely charted on the Bubbling Under Chart for one week when the album was released. Unless it is released as a single, the article will not have enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article and is unlikely ever to grow beyond a stub article. Aspects (talk) 00:39, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply
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Keep. If it charted, it's notable. - Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:36, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, It didn't chart on a notable chart. The bubble under is an extension of a chart, and rather meaningless. Read what the Bubble Under chart actually is here:

Bubbling_Under_Hot_100_Singles; " It comprises 25 positions that represent songs that are close to charting on the main singles chart, the Billboard Hot 100", hence, It never charted on a major chart Alan - talk 03:39, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply

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Delete As Alankc points out, the Bubbling Under chart is effectively a chart of uncharted singles. The demand for entry is low enough that established acts like Clarkson will occasionally get unreleased album tracks show up on it as a statistical anomaly. One hit on the Bubbling Under chart does not, in my view, constitute "charting".—Kww(talk) 20:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep: It has enough information to warrant its own page and is not considered a stub, thus it should stay.....and the bubbling under hot 100 singles chart is still a chart and is one of Billboard's most popular charts....---Allyoueverwanted (talk) 21:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC) User has been blocked, refer to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Brexxfor details.[reply]

Comment the song charted on a non-significant chart (bubbling under) for one week, the description of the Bubbling Under chart itself is that it is not a chart, but an extension of a chart for songs that have not charted. Unless the song becomes a notable single, there will never be enough to validate the article to meet quality guidelines (it will never be more than a stub). Further more, the article was only created because Clarkson hinted in a twitter tweet that the song may possibly become a single (which may or may not be true) a day after saying on twitter that they are aiming for September for the next single (which also may or may not happen, just as her supposed album at the end of 2010 may or may not happen). This article belongs more ona fan-site than on wikipedia and completely fails
WP:NSONGSAlan - talk 22:06, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply
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Delete. As noted, the Bubbling Under chart is not a major chart, and there is no evidence that this song meets
WP:NSONGS otherwise. —C.Fred (talk) 20:06, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply
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Delete as doesn't seem to met
WP:NSONGS criteria, Bubbling Under not a significant chart. Adambro (talk) 20:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply
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Another note, the creator of this article (
All I Ever Wanted (Kelly Clarkson song)), claiming that one is the next single (created after this article, and has since been redirected).. which can easily fall under Hoax, and possibly have the editor banned from Wikipedia Alan - talk 00:05, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply
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Yet another note article creator (Allyoueverwanted) is blocked as a Sock Puppet of Brexx Alan - talk 19:12, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.