Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Isaac (talk show)

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The result was keep. Sourcing has been confirmed. If it's not available online, then it fails WP:V is not remotely true. You know better than that, TPH. Star Mississippi 13:12, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Isaac (talk show)

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Deprodded with NYT article, but sourcing is still super scant. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 19:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 19:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - as noted in my PROD removal text, it was also reviewed by the Baltimore Sun, which is not available online (but appears in Google search results because they just broke their internet archive or something): Baltimore Sun, Dec 4, 2005, "Fashion and fun with irreverent Isaac Mizrahi". Thus, it was reviewed twice, with two independent, reliable sources, and meets the GNG.
matt91486 (talk) 03:18, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
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If it's not available online, then it fails
WP:V. If we can't see the full version, who's to say it wasn't just a one-sentence blurb or PR piece? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 16:25, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Wikipedia policy very clearly permits offline sources. In an AfD, we are trying to prove that sources exist.
matt91486 (talk) 16:52, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
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But we can't verify the content of that source. How do you know how in-depth it is or isn't? Ten Pound Hammer • ⁽What did I screw up now?) 16:53, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the article [1] DonaldD23 talk to me 17:05, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately their articles auto-redirect to the home page, as they've entirely broken their online archive system.
matt91486 (talk) 17:07, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
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I read the article. Click on the link DonaldD23 talk to me 17:11, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, if it works for you that's great -- for me when I click, it just takes me to the Baltimore Sun home page (which is why in the Google search result I could see the short preview, title, etc., but not the article itself). Similar things happen to me with all Tribune Company papers. (Which is annoying because Chicago Tribune, Baltimore Sun, Miami Sun Sentinel, and Orlando Sentinel all have reasonably decent archival TV coverage).
matt91486 (talk) 17:13, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Excerpt: "It's like Cosmo in 3-D and InStyle coming to life in your living room.

Watching award-winning fashion designer Isaac Mizrahi's new talk show - debuting tonight at 7 on the Style Network - is like watching your favorite fashion magazine unfold on television.

Those great round-toe shoes you've been looking for? See them on screen - on a real, live fashionista - and get Isaac's opinion about them, too. That burning style question you wanted to write and ask a fashion editor? Isaac answers it right there in his design studio - on camera and off-the-cuff.

The hourlong mix of celebrity interviews, fashion, cuisine, home design, pop culture and Mizrahi's own bold and bawdy take on life is just the latest step in the famed fashion designer's recent mad dash to the height of his game.

"Isaac's definitely back on top, and his star is brighter than ever in Hollywood and in fashion," says Kelli Delaney, editor-in-chief of Celebrity Living magazine. "I think he could be the male Ellen [DeGeneres]."" DonaldD23 talk to me 17:17, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the citations listed in the article. The reviews don't need to be verified by the editor who proposed the deletion, anyone can verify them...which I did. The reasoning of not being able to see the full article because of a paywall is an individual issue. DonaldD23 talk to me 17:56, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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