Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Isla Bevan
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. Liz Read! Talk! 05:41, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Isla Bevan
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I've found coverage ([1][2][3][4][5][6]) about a photo of Bevan holding a goose, perhaps enough to justify an article about the photo, but nothing about her as an actor or a person. The coverage of her films is also slim so I don't know about an
]- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Theatre, and Photography. QuietHere (talk) 23:27, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and England. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 08:15, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Leaning keep per WP:NACTOR#1. She was a leading actor in multiple silent films and stage plays. It's difficult to find significant coverage due to a combination of scant digitization for that period, and many, many hits that are just cast lists. pburka (talk) 20:35, 9 March 2023 (UTC)]
- Which just goes to the point I made initially where the lack of coverage means we can't really guarantee these meet "significant roles in multiple notable films". I know the standards are awkward around classic films because of the lack of digitized contemporary coverage, but despite that I don't think we can just assume notability must exist because the sources that presumably exist just aren't readily available. QuietHere (talk) 21:16, 9 March 2023 (UTC)]
- The films listed on her page appear to be notable, unless you're challenging their inclusion, too. And she had starring roles in all of them. I do think it's reasonable to assume that sources exist for prolific major studio film stars, even if they're not easily found on-line. pburka (talk) 22:03, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Which just goes to the point I made initially where the lack of coverage means we can't really guarantee these meet "significant roles in multiple notable films". I know the standards are awkward around classic films because of the lack of digitized contemporary coverage, but despite that I don't think we can just assume notability must exist because the
- Keep I think she passes WP:NACTOR "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions". The British Film Institute lists six films where she is one of the top three featured artists in five of the six. The national portrait gallery describes her as "the English Constance Bennett", repeated in for example, Australian newspapers and "Her likeness"..."Noel Coward personally selected her to be one of the bridesmaids in the New York production of "Bitter Sweet.". There's more coverage in Subscription archives, for example Kinematograph Weekly - Thursday 27 February 1936..."ISLA BEVAN First Film For Three Years" and Daily Mirror - Saturday 15 August 1936..."Love Changes Star with No Use for Marriage" Piecesofuk (talk) 13:37, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stifle (talk) 13:07, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. There is surely significant coverage which somebody with access to a library with archived periodicals could find. Ther will be reviews. I do not know if American Equity's rules were as harsh then as they are now,, but if they are the fact that she appeared in Bittersweet's Broadway production is a strong arguement for notability. As id the fact that the National Portrait Gallery have a portrait. Of course if she was a rapper with one record at number ten in the Kazakstan charts there would be loads of guff on the net and would be deemed notable; Wikipedia is frequently absurd.TheLongTone (talk) 13:25, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- The above rapper comparison aside, this looks convincing enough to me, and clearly the votes are going that way anyway so I may as well end this now. Consider this withdrawn/kept or whatever you wanna write for it. QuietHere (talk) 13:30, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
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