Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jana Jacková

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The result was keep. Brittle heaven has demonstrated that the subject easily passes

Jana Jacková

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Unable to find material coverage of the subject (hits limited to game summaries, etc.). Top ranking is 2,423. Not in top 100 women ([1]. Unreferenced. Bongomatic 08:08, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Chess Grandmaster with sufficient sources available (69 hits on Lexis Nexis, probably more if you search in her native language. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:36, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you look at the references? The ones I looked at (while I can't be sure) appeared to be game summaries and match listings--not "significant". Are you suggesting that every grandmaster (thousands) are notable? Does the "significant coverage in reliable sources" rule not apply? Bongomatic 09:39, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am suggesting that every grandmaster is notable, and the sources cover the information in the entry. Alternatively, we could merge/redirect to the List of chess grandmasters until there's more content to make an article with. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:01, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jana Jacková plays the first board for the Czech republic at the Dresden Olympiad in progress at the moment. Saying that that she isn't notable enough is plain stupid. Loosmark (talk) 11:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No need to insult anyone, I think. SyG (talk) 21:39, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Very notable player indeed. Article just needs some developing/refs adding. Multi medal-winning junior at European and World level. Individual Gold medal at European Team Championship. CZE's top woman player, plays board one for Olympiad team (see Dresden Olympiad, in progress). Has both WGM nad men's IM titles. Brittle heaven (talk) 11:14, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment The 2423 is a rating, not a ranking. Her rating has dropped since its peak in April 2007. At that time she was probably in the top 55 or so. She is playing the top board on the Czech Republic women's team at the 38th Chess Olympiad right now. Bubba73 (talk), 15:42, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Brittle heaven. On Bubba73's comment: nominator could have a look at
  Elo rating. Voorlandt (talk) 21:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply
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• Keep per Brittle heaven. The existing consensus (as far as I fell it) is that all grandmasters are notable. SyG (talk) 21:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I don't think that all grandmasters these days are notable - there are far too many of them. I think only about half of them have WP articles. FIDE started awarding the GM title in 1950, and by 1972 there were only 88 GMs. Now I think there are over 1000 (at least close to it). Bubba73 (talk), 22:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then maybe we should initiate a discussion at

WP:CHESS to have some rough guidelines about which grandmaster to include and which not ? At one time the threshold for notability was 2600 Elos (assuming no other notable aspects like writing books) but that is for male. What about female grandmasters ? Maybe having been in the top 100 ? SyG (talk) 09:02, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply

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