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The result was keep. Not a copyright violation, as noted on this and many other AFDs by Epeefleche and others. Notability concerns addressed by Deb per

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Le Plus Grand Français

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Non-notable, possibly copyvio. cf. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/200 Greatest Israelis. List articles that simply reproduce lists published elsewhere are non-notable. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:02, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I note, as well, that this appears to be part of a series of PRODs and AfDs today by the same nom, of many of the national poll results reflected here.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:04, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. First, I note that at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/100 Welsh Heroes, the closer of the AfD to which the nom points objected to nom's use of his close as precedent. He wrote: "No blanket declaration about the inherent notability of such lists was made, or even implied, in my closing statement [1].... And I don't know how much clearer I could have been that copyright issues were not considered as a factor in that close."
Second, it is clear as discussed above that there is not any copyvio. In addition, nom's last sentence is simply inapplicable. As to notability, I agree with the consensus of the editors, a majority of whom have !voted !keep. I also note (as wp:otherstuffexists permits) that we have thousands of lists of people from country x (or city y, or college z), which weren't even the results of polls -- just collections that random editors chose -- and this certainly has greater indicia of notability than such lists.
Finally, I note that at the 2-dozen-odd AfDs that nom made of the same ilk most commentators are expressing keen disagreement with nom's parallel nominations. The AfDs, which are running concurrently with this one, can be found at most of the national poll results reflected here.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:34, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep just as for the others.Not copyvio, as has been clearly explained above. There is no policy against these lists, and the assertion of the nom does not make policy DGG ( talk ) 16:09, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note to closer, this AfD is not transcluded in the AfD Log. I am adding it now. Please consider the failure to transclude when deciding when to close this discussion. Monty845 20:29, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – per rationales provided by user:Epeefleche and user:DGG, and the manner in which this article provides a useful means of listing biography articles. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:00, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Everyone makes the same arguments in all of these, so it'd save time if they were just nominated at once. Anyway, its not a copyvio, no policies violated, and its a perfectly valid Wikipedia list article grouping similar things together, and linking to blue articles about the people listed there. Dream Focus 20:18, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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