Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lily Champ

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The result was keep. Consensus is to Keep this article. Liz Read! Talk! 06:44, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lily Champ

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I PRODded this because my

WP:BEFORE search didn't find any independent RS coverage outside of this Laois Today article, which I think is too brief to constitute sigcov. ‎Guliolopez (courtesy ping) dePRODded and added citations to Irish Country Magazine and the Irish Farmers Journal, but Champ writes a column in both of those outlets, so I'm not convinced that they're independent of the subject. Happy to discuss. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:34, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

She was featured on a television show on RTE (no link to the show, but it's discussed in this press pack [1]), down near the bottom. Oaktree b (talk) 04:01, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete I feel like she's regionally known and perhaps also on a national level, but there are no sources. We're almost at GNG; one good source would change my !vote. Oaktree b (talk) 04:48, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep per
    WP:BASIC allows us to stitch the pieces together. (Also added a few more passing mentions and details in addition to these.) Cielquiparle (talk) 14:11, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Weak keep Agree with the assessment above, weak but she's at GNG due to the television programs. Oaktree b (talk) 16:31, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. In all honesty, and with thanks to
    WP:ATD I can consider is a merge (of the overlapping content) to Irish Farmers Journal. With a redirect left behind. Otherwise, in all honesty, I'm not sure what to suggest. While not a clear-cut candidate for PROD (and I still stand behind my dePROD), I don't have a firm AfD recommendation either way... Guliolopez (talk) 16:38, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting after article changes since nomination.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:07, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep She's not very notable. Important sources we rely on to establish notability are also places where she's been published, but I assume there are not that many Irish gardening publications and that anyone who's spent a long life in the industry might have the same issue. I think we have to assume they have sufficient editorial credibility. I've struggled with this one for same/similar reasons that people have stated above, but my main question to is therefore "is the encyclopedia better with her in it or not in it. so I vote keep. CT55555(talk) 15:54, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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