Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Chester F.C. players
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 02:29, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
List of Chester F.C. players
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PROD contested by an IP, who appears to be a local football historian (?) who is using Wikipedia as a personal record-keeping website, which is
]- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 08:26, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete A list of players for Chester City F.C. might be notable, but this is a different team, formed in 2010, that's never been in a professional league, so it's hard to see how it meets notability guidelines. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:31, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Chester F.C. for now, until this newer team has been around a bit longer. This appears to be good info; why throw the baby out with the bathwater when it's entirely reasonable to expect this list would be appropriate later on? —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 11:19, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep. WP:CSC, it is reasonable to have a list in which most or all of the entries are not sufficiently notable to have their own article. Dricherby (talk) 08:28, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- You seem to conveniently ignore the part of CSC which states "Red-linked entries are acceptable if the entry is verifiably a member of the listed group, and it is reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the future." It is NOT reasonable at all to expect any of these red-links to turn blue anytime soon. GiantSnowman 12:12, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- That only applies to the case where all the elements of the list are individually notable. In this case, they're not so the redlinks should just be unlinked. Dricherby (talk) 13:10, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- There will always be more red-links than blue-links. You're also forgetting the topic itself isn't notable. GiantSnowman 15:54, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikipedia has many lists where all or most of the individual entries are non-notable, per WP:CSC. You can't use the non-notability of the list's entries to argue that the list as a whole is not notable. What is your reasoning behind the assertion that the list of players of a notable football club is not itself notable? Dricherby (talk) 17:07, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Because neither the topic, nor the players that make up the topic, meet ]
- Wikipedia has many lists where all or most of the individual entries are non-notable, per
- Redirect to Chester F.C.. I am doubtful on whether we should have that article, but the club claims to be a successor to Chester City F.C. and is rising fast up the minor leagues. The list of 1st team players in the article has many blue links, which probably justifies its existence. However, lists with a lot of red-links encourage the creation of articles on people who are probably NN and thus should not have an article. With weekly gates of under 3000, it is doubtful if the club will rise to a level where it would normallyu be notable. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- not temporary, regardless of the club's future performance. The question here is whether the list of players meets the notability criteria. Dricherby (talk) 17:07, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - A list of this type should list players who have competed at a notable level of football. Once the club reaches a level that would confer notability on its players, that is when we should create a list. – Jay 13:44, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. A list of talk 17:51, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I feel they have a significant following despite any comments on the level. In the future they will be professional and also this list will be useful, plus surely it is excellent to have complete records available, this not being the case with most clubs! 94.9.212.245 (User_talk:94.9.212.245), 17:19, 6 May 2013 This comment was left, unsigned, on the talk page associated with this AfD so I copied it here. Dricherby (talk) 16:41, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - talk) 01:42, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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