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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 21:53, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Manish Sharma (businessman)

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single purpose account with no edits that are not connected to this subject. GregJackP Boomer! 15:18, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 18:56, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 18:56, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete appears to fail under Competent Professional but otherwise not notable.
    talk) 14:44, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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I made this page Manish Sharma (businessman) on Manish Sharma who is the current Managing Director, Panasonic India. There are certain issues with the page, the biggest one being that Manish Sharma is being termed as a Non-notable Corporate Bureaucrat. In my opinion this is not correct. I understand that we need to provide proper facts/references to support it and here they are: I would start with a statement from The Economic Times (Category-A Business newspaper in India) here, "Japan's largest consumer electronics company, Panasonic has for the first time ever appointed an Indian to head its flagship consumer durables business in the country. Manish Sharma (41), erstwhile head for sales and marketing of Panasonic India, has been promoted as its managing director from April."

Here is the link of the same: http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-03-06/news/31127441_1_panasonic-india-daizo-ito-durables-market

His name has appeared in other major newspapers and magazines in India. Here are the links:

Apart from these, he has received various awards, one of the most recent one being, the National Conservation Energy Awards 2012 held in December on behalf of Panasonic.

Also, the page isn't an Orphan page now as it was earlier as it is linked to three different articles.

Therefore, Manish Sharma by no means necessary can be categorized as a Non-notable Corporate Bureaucrat. Also, as you can see there are some newspapers and publications that are included here which are only going to increase with time. I request you to please help me correct this issue and don't get this article deleted. Please respond. Urgent. Gadgetsgigs (talk) 06:07, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Seven editors have responded......saying they believe he is not notable. Niteshift36 (talk) 12:54, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

was just going through the article. it seems perfectly fit for Wikipedia to me. i dont think so it has any such issue because of which it should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.21.190.97 (talk) 04:27, 25 January 2013 (UTC) — 125.21.190.97 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

  • Delete Fails
    WP:BIO. Sub-division head within a company. Most of the references focus on Panasonic's business strategy, with Sharma briefly mentioned. Funny Pika! 02:12, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Interesting sources are;
    • Hindustan Times, April 29, 2011. Quotes Sharma extensively, but is mostly about Panasonic in India, not him personally. "Panasonic India currently imports its home appliances from various locations around the globe. It is in the process of setting up a manufacturing plant at Jhajjar in Haryana, for which its parent company has set aside Rs 1,000 crore. The company aims to double its headcount to 22,000 employees for its Indian operations by the end of the current financial year." Certainly interesting when some western firms are "notable" with maybe a few dozen or a few hundred employees. Should we discriminate for being Indian when deciding notability? Twenty-two thousand employees?
    • Hindustan Times, December 14, 2010. Quotes Sharma again, briefly, and also has a longer quote, "Panasonic Corp currently imports its home appliances from different locations around the globe in India. It is now looking at investing Rs 1,000 crore in a new consumer appliance manufacturing plant at Jhajjar in Haryana by 2012. The facility, which will manufacture air conditioners and washing machines will later be looked at as an export hub."
    • Also a separate article quoting Sharma in the same day's paper, "Global consumer electronics majors Panasonic and Toshiba, which were present in India even before the arrival of the Korean giants, are once again waking up to Indian market. The firms are now looking at flooding the market with their India-focused products, besides setting up local manufacturing facilities in the country."
    • Sharma talking at length about a "techno park" with investment of Rs 1,000 crore, covering 72 acres, something to do with air conditioning. Tehelka, December 15, 2010. Author was "Nishi Rath", article title was " Reliance arm to develop the project with Panasonic investing Rs 1,000 crore".

I think there's some substance underneath all this, and if we're deleting this article just because the person happens to hold a post in India, we will look pretty stupid a few years down the line. --

talk) 02:28, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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The thing is, the only substance I can see is Sharma being a spokesperson for Panasonic. The fact that he holds a post in India is irrelevant. If he were CEO of some other Fortune 500 company in India there would be reason for him to have an article, but here he's just the Managing Director of the Indian division of a Fortune 500 company. Funny Pika! 04:04, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That also seems to be in pretty bad faith to say we are asking for deletion due to him being Indian.
talk) 04:12, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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What searches for sources did you carry out before your one-line !vote, "Hell in a Bucket"? What did you find? --
talk) 04:32, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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That's a fairly interesting response to a questino on why you are assuming bad faith.
talk) 04:38, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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If we're to assume bad faith as you suggest, then the assumption from your responses thus far is that you did no searches at all. If that's the case, shouldn't your !vote just be stricken as wilfully ill-informed? --
talk) 05:57, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Are you really going to continue showing bad faith? I put in my rationale why I thought it should be deleted. My comment doesn't say just per nom, it was my reason for deletion. i'm sorry that it doesn't pass your muster of what a vote should include or how long it should include but I am following wiki policy.
talk) 06:00, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Excuse me? You're the one that began throwing around the accusations of bad faith, and continue to do so - together with laughable bullshit spammed onto my talk page. You can indeed come out with any old nonsense you like as "my reason for deletion", but unless it addresses the notability of the subject one way or the other, it might as well just be stricken - it's worthless. Have you looked to see what coverage of this person exists in independent reliable sources? If so, how did you do so? What did you find? --
talk) 06:14, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Relisted
to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 17:25, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • What's not clear about the consensus above? Seems like a pretty clear delete to me.--ukexpat (talk) 20:40, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've asked him to explain the relist on his talkpage, here. GregJackP Boomer! 21:08, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I was concerned that given Demiurge's late comment on sourcing and notability and Carrite's keep, there was new information that could affect the outcome and wanted to relist for full consideration. MBisanz talk 21:20, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete gainfully employed, but that's about it. Not a CEO or industry leader, unlikely to become an enduring part of history even within the industry. Sourcing focuses on the company (which of course is notable), not him personally. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:48, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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