Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marcus Foligno

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. -- Cirt (talk) 07:30, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Marcus Foligno

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Winning a silver medal in the WJC or being invited to the orientation camp doesn't meet NHOCKEY. USA1168 (talk) 01:39, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete:
Notability is not inherited, and no evidence he meets the GNG. Someone named to the U20 team will likely have a professional career of some sort, but that's a CRYSTAL deal. Ravenswing 06:39, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply
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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 14:24, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails to meet
WP:NHOCKEY and no indication they meet the GNG. Most likely just a bit of crystal balling. Can be recreated when he becomes notable. -DJSasso (talk) 14:11, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply
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Redirect to Mike Foligno#Personal, which contains ~~a little easily sourceable~~ reliably sourced information about him. Rlendog (talk) 18:14, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No objections to a redirect. Ravenswing 19:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep. Foligno just signed an NHL contract.[1] J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 20:14, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Being under contract with an NHL Team does not establish notability. If he plays in one game in the NHL, however, that would do it. Please see
WP:NHOCKEY for notability requirements for Hockey Players. -Pparazorback (talk) 00:57, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply
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Response. The coverage of Foligno's signing has pushed him over the
GNG. Google News returns numerous hits regarding the signing, including this beyond-routine piece and this wire story.J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 02:53, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply
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Standard wire service pieces, both extremely short and well within
WP:ROUTINE. Ravenswing 03:50, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply
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You're wrong. The wire story may be somewhat routine. The WIVB story is not, nor is this Buffalo News article on his signing. Quit making excuses. J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 11:56, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reply: I recommend you review
WP:CIVIL. That being said, the link you claim is an article on his signing merely mentions it along with a section on the Sabres' minor league affiliation and an even longer section - featured in the photo accompanying the story - of the thrilling saga of sledgehammering down the walls of the team's dressing room in light of a renovation. Neither it, nor any of the other links, discuss Foligno in the "significant detail" required. You'll have to come up with a better rebuttal than "I disagree with you." Ravenswing 18:04, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply
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The Buffalo news article that you quote would be routine because its routine for a newspaper to report all signings of its professional hockey team. Now if it were a news paper in some other far away city then you might have a stronger case. But a local paper reporting the signing of its local team is pretty much the definition of routine coverage. -DJSasso (talk) 12:35, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Subject Fails
WP:GNG -Pparazorback (talk) 00:57, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply
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Keep – This article started as a redirect before it was expanded into an article, and it should revert back to a redirect if he is not yet notable, however Marcus Foligno passes

WP:GNG

as demonstrated by the significant and non-routine coverage he has received in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, including:

The published feature stories about Foligno, many from before his professional contract was announced, pushes this article well over the GNG threshold required for a stand-alone article. Dolovis (talk) 13:19, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Dolovis. Foligno easily meets
WP:GNG, though it would be nice if he would integrate the articles he found into an expanded article. Reso lute 15:26, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply
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