Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maria Barnaby Greenwald

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Maria Barnaby Greenwald

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Non-notable local politician. The article incorrectly state she was on the New Jersey Superior Court, she was only a county surrogate. Neither that position, being mayor, or county freeholder gives her notability under

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• first woman mayor
  of Cherry Hill
• first directly elected mayor of Cherry Hill
• first woman elected to the
  Board of Chosen Freeholder
• first woman director of Board of Chosen Freeholders
• first woman surrogate for the New Jersey Superior Court in Camden County
• Camden County Hall of Justice named in her honor

Djflem (talk) 08:10, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Mayors of townships are not handed an automatic notability freebie just for existing as mayors, but this article is referenced nowhere close to well enough to get her over
  primary sources that do nothing to support notability is not enough to make a smalltown mayor notable regardless of her gender. Bearcat (talk) 14:29, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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• Keep. A Newspapers.com search finds 715 hits in the Philadelphia Inquirer alone. A national search yields 1,563 results. I haven't gone through all of these, but I've looked into some of the Inquirer plus 6 New York Daily News hits, and this is not routine, trivial coverage.Jacona (talk) 13:13, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per above. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 20:18, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Specifically which keep argument? That she is the first women (mayor/freeholder/etc.) of a specific town/county (ie. gender=notability) or that there are a lot of newspaper hits (ie

Rusf10 (talk) 20:56, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply

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This was enough to persuade me that the article should be kept. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 19:39, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment This is not just internet-age google hit count we're talking about. This is genuine coverage in Newspapers in New Jersey and elsewhere. In addition to all the New Jersey Coverage, there are over 700 newspapers.com articles in the Philadelphia Inquirer alone, and more in other Philly publications. I'm not going to try to list them, but that level of coverage doesnt apply to your average freeholder. Since Philly might be considered local, there are also articles from NY papers, including for instance The New York Daily News including the February 26, 1979 issue. There's coverage in The Morning News from Wilmington, Delaware - 3 articles dated September 1, 1977 September 23, 1977, January 12, 1995. Much of the NY and Delaware coverage discusses the mayor and two events/issues: a workfare proposal and a police force sickout. With these, this article meets
  the general notability guidelineJacona (talk) 19:12, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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• Keep as per Djflem's list of achievements above. Particularly as first woman mayor of the town, she was a pioneer for women in public office in her area. MurielMary (talk) 10:18, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Per available sources, clearly passes the
  WP:GNG. gidonb (talk) 20:07, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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• Keep per Djflem's explanation above, and MurielMary. Hundreds more references readily available on newspaper engines on the internet, will try and add more soon. SEMMENDINGER (talk) 11:58, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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