Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Melissa Kite

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The result was keep. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:17, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 00:25, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Melissa Kite

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Doesn't seem notable. Sources are mostly search results showing articles she's written. Very little actual biographical content. An IP tried to nominate the article. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 00:27, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:37, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak Delete~~Keep My somewhat exhaustive search failed to turn up an independent an appropriate source which examines the woman herself, but did turn up many examples of her work as well as significant analysis of same in the blogsphere. While at present the article does not pass
WP:GNG, I suspect appropriate sources will eventually turn up. Snow (talk) 06:17, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply
]

Keep Having a byline in multiple national newspapers and periodicals and appearing on
WP:ENTERTAINER. Note that when she appeared on QT this caused people to look her up on Wikipedia. She didn't have an article at the time and this generated adverse comment. Warden (talk) 09:07, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply
]

You mean
WP:GNG guidelines in addition to whatever Wikipedia:Notability (people) guidelines that may apply. I've still yet to find an independent article that gives any detail to her background or analyzes her work. Snow (talk) 09:58, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply
]

No, I mean WP:ENTERTAINER which includes opinion makers as that seems the most fitting description for the pundits who appear on Question Time. Wikipedia:Notability (people) is a guideline too and, just being guidelines, these pages are not hard rules. The key point here is this is a person who is regularly in the public eye and so should not be a red link. If there isn't a lot of biographical material about her then we just have a short stub which sticks to the known facts. This is not a problem nor a reason to delete. Warden (talk) 11:13, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We're still going to need at least one solid reference (putting aside the debate of whether or not GNG is ironclad, there's no way this things survives AfD without an appropriate secondary source). But I don't think it's an issue - she gets enough attention that I can't imagine there's not something out there. Snow (talk) 11:19, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

David Dimbleby usually gives a potted bio of the members of the panel on QT as he introduces them. Perhaps someone can watch this and tell us what he says. If he confirms what the article says then we're good. Warden (talk) 11:37, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just found the edition on YouTube here. Dimbleby describes her as "the Spectator columnist Melissa Kite".
talk) 12:09, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply
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Eh, good enough for me. If either of you chooses to add it, just be sure to use the formal link and not youtube, but I guess that probably goes without saying. Snow (talk) 12:59, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Believe it or not, I just added the YouTube link in error because my copy/paste of the BBC link apparently didn't work first time round. But I've fixed it now. Interestingly, I've only just realised this is still available to watch on iPlayer. They usually go offline after 7 days. Worth remembering for future reference.
talk) 13:18, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply
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Keep per Warden. Journalist whose articles have appeared in multiple publications, and described on BBC's Question Time as a Spectator columnist. Passes
talk) 11:50, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply
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