Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mindanao Express

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The result was no consensus. Davewild (talk) 19:49, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mindanao Express

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It exists, but I couldn't establish that it meets

WP:GNG. It has been tagged for notability for 7 years (Slashme), hopefully we can resolve it now. Boleyn (talk) 17:55, 15 April 2015 (UTC) Boleyn (talk) 17:55, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nakon 01:36, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Relisting comment: Not seeing a consensus yet due to the Weak deletes Black Kite (talk) 09:14, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 09:14, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete the sources show that it existed, but mere existence is not enough for Wikipedia. YSSYguy (talk) 00:23, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment. Again, please take a good look at the sources I posted. An article without enough citations now doesn't mean it won't have or that it is not notable anymore. The USAID source claims that it was "the first commuter airline in Mindanao." That in itself already suggests notability. This news source from 1999 claims that it was also the "first airline which provided direct flights between major Mindanao destinations." This article just needs improvement and addition of RS's such as those and 1 2 3. --RioHondo (talk) 02:51, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I had a good look at those sources, and all they do is demonstrate the company's existence. You can have fifty citations of that calibre and the result would still be the same - it existed and went about its business for a while. That is not enough. YSSYguy (talk) 06:35, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm actually leaning towards keep right now. At least we now have a full-length newspaper article that discusses the airline in depth, saying which aircraft they were using, and we also have sources which explain how they became a bus operator. The fact that they were the first airline on those routes is an aspect of notability as well, so even though the topic might not pass a strict application of the notability guidelines, it passes the most important part, namely verifiability. We know for a fact what the answers are to the main who/what/when/where/why questions. I'd say that if User:RioHondo and User:Philippine Adventurer can update the article with this new information, it's worth keeping. --Slashme (talk) 12:40, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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