Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norman, California

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:41, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Norman, California

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Contested PROD. This location is just a named railway point with no population. One of dozens of stubs on nonexistent or non-notable California locations created in a short period by the same user, based on nothing but GNIS coordinates (which do not establish notability). The fact that there was once a post office does not contribute to notability, since pre-1900 rural post offices in the US were often nothing more than private residences. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 18:41, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and California. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 18:41, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
delete This shows yet another limitation of the GNIS methodology, which is that they located the place by the label's location on the map, which is naturally in wherever there is a convenient blank spot on the map. The actual Norman, the topos made clear, was a siding on the west side of the tracks, and all the buildings indicated (except one latecomer) were on the west side of the road. Naturally the label ended up in the field east of all this. The oldest aerial shows a few buildings along the E-W road, all of them wiped out by construction of the exit ramps when the road was relocated. I don't see enough here to suggest this was an actual town. Mangoe (talk) 19:52, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep due to having a post office in the 19th century. (Durham, David L. (1998). California's Geographic Names: A Gazetteer of Historic and Modern Names of the State. Clovis, Calif.: Word Dancer Press. p. 285.) बिनोद थारू (talk) 01:50, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the nomination statement? US post offices back in the day were not necessarily in settlements. Mangoe (talk) 03:57, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - No evidence that this was actually a settlement, much less a notable one. Sources only describe a post office and railway station. –dlthewave ☎ 11:57, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Post offices could be (and actually may still be) temporary facilities established in stores or even individual homes, and are not evidence of legal recognition. GNIS does not prove legal recognition per
WP:GEOLAND. Maps also can't be used to show legal recognition - they just indicate a point on the map. People who lived near this point on the map also do not show notability. It goes without saying that a phot of an eclipse proves nothing about the site. FOARP (talk) 13:26, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply
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