Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norman Hsu (disambiguation)

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The result was withdrawn.. tedder (talk) 07:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Norman Hsu (disambiguation)

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unnecessary page, already a hatnote on only article on a Norman Hsu to only article mentioning another Norman Hsu. I prodded this and it was removed because the editor felt that Hsu was better known for the school board than the controversy and that Hsu is not mentioned in controversy article. This isn't the case - Nornam N. Hsu is not mentioned on school board link, and is mentioned on controversy link (try searching for Mr Hsu rather than Norman Hsu).

talk) 05:34, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply

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Keep There was significant confusion at the time of Norman Hsu's notoriety in August 2008 - i.e two politically connected individuals that shared the same name, with the school board member being unfairly mistaken for the Ponzi scheme artist. Also, the threshold for disambiguation pages is lower than for articles. Ronnotel (talk) 12:10, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It doesn't meet dab guidelines -

talk) 17:53, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply

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Keep And the confusion has not ended. Norman N. Hsu is a Republican and ran for CA state assembly primary in 1998. You can't compare an article of an entity with that of an event. Norman N. Hsu is obviously listed on the school district website. And both persons will continue to appear in the news. HkCaGu (talk) 18:46, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Hsu is not mentioned on the school board article. I am also not arguing for no disambiguation - only that disambiguation can be better served. At the moment, someone would type in Norman Hsu if they wanted Norman N. Hsu, end up at the wrong article, then click on the dab link, then go to a dab with a selection of blue links connected to Hsu, including two he isn't mentioned on. My proposal is that they type in Norman Hsu and see a direct link at the top of this page to the only article which mentions Hsu.

talk) 18:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply

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Sorry, I'm afraid you've got me completely lost. Can you please be more specific regarding your desired page layout. The potential pages are: NYYH (Norman Y. Y. Hsu), NNH (Norman N. Hsu), School (the school board page) and DAB (disambiguation page). To which exact page will the search term "Norman Hsu" link to and how will the casual reader be instructed regarding the difference between the two individuals? I'm not saying you don't have a valid proposal, but I'd like to understand it. Ronnotel (talk) 20:22, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CommentThe search term

talk) 05:54, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply

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OK, I think I understand what you are suggesting but I hardly think it would help distinguish NYYH from NNH. The mention of NNH in the Ted Sioeng link is misleading and suffers from the same confusion between the two I identified above. The sentence is confusing and seemingly suggest that NNH contributed to HRC in 2007, which is not supported by the sources. The text in the DAB page is much clearer about the difference between NYYH and NNH. Ronnotel (talk) 12:36, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tentative Keep, without prejudice to early renom. With due respect for Boleyn's concerns, i think AfD is likely to be an unsuitable place for hashing out a Dab problem, which is what seems to be in progress. (And there is a question, since Dab's are aggressively stated not to be articles, whether this is the place to do it. That is not just a technicality: the issues weighed on AfD recur over and over, but they are completely different from Dab issues, and how many frequent AfD discussants have seriously studied both
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--Jerzy•t 08:19, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Withdraw nomination simply because this is dragging on and wasting people's time. I've created an article on

talk) 12:27, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply

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