Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oil down

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The result was keep. Nominator has withdrawn. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 04:39, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oil down

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Consists almost entirely of a recipe for the dish. Wikipedia is not a cookbook

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Caribbean-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:29, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:29, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Grenada-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:30, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I would want to say keep to this article, since a national dish seems like it could be noteworthy. That said, when I went looking for resources I found that this page (namely, the recipe and some text accompanying it) is almost entirely copy-pasted from the official web-page of the government of Grenada [1] by an unregistered user without any citation. In fact, you can tell they copy-pasted because a misspelling with the word turmeric and saffron was retained from the official government website that were later corrected by a different user. There is an entire NPR article [2] about this dish (which uses the same government recipe, albeit citing it) so I think the page could be salvaged but as it is there's a glaring issue. Userqio (talk) 02:28, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Hello. First I want to say that this is not my page. I had never heard of oil down before yesterday. I was searching for recipes, and the term oil down came up in a search, so I had to click on the link since the name was so odd (IMO.) I have no connection to the country of Grenada, and I have never been there, but I am fascinated with history and also with food, so food that has historical significance is one of my favorite things to read about. I agree that a page that is merely a copy/paste of a recipe is not what Wikipedia is about, so I have made some changes, and linked to some articles that I found interesting. I would like to work on this page more this weekend, when I have more time. Perhaps the recipe should go - I'll let the majority make that decision. Please see my edits and let me know what you think.Widjididji (talk) 16:24, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The article is now much different than it was when nominated thanks to Widjididji's work. I'm leaning toward withdrawing the nomination and looking forward to further improvements as promised before making my final decision. I do still say that the recipe, though now properly attributed, does belong in the cookbook section of Wikibooks rather than in the article itself. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 16:50, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Wait, ... what? There's a cookbook section of Wikibooks? I didn't know that. Yes, absolutely the recipe should be removed from this page, then. Another reason being that I just made a comment about how there is no one, set recipe, as each cook, family, and/or region has its own recipe. I will remove the recipe, but just want to have a chance to find the original poster so I can let him/her know why I'm removing it. Still have a lot of other clean-up to do. Widjididji (talk) 02:10, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Okay, I've gone about as far as I'm going to go this weekend on this article. Next step (for me), find one of the many recipes I've come across this week, and make a batch of oil down to see how it tastes. And add Grenada to my travel bucket list. Please let me know if you see anything that needs revisited on this page. I truly think it deserves to be retained as a true (i.e., not stub) page on Wikipedia. Thank you for your consideration.Widjididji (talk) 20:04, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The one thing that I really think this page lacks is a photo. I've made several requests to websites asking if I can use their photos. I don't want to accidentally use one that is copyrighted without permission. I'll keep trying ... or maybe I'll add my own photo when I get around to making my own pot of oil down.Widjididji (talk) 20:19, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep (by nominator). I'm withdrawing my deletion nom in light of the changes to the article. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 18:23, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per
  WP:HEY. Bearian (talk) 18:30, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
  ]

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