Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Omar Gosh

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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:51, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Omar Gosh

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References do not show the notability of the subject. Not so many changes from previous deletions. fails

WP:ORGIND GermanKity (talk) 05:42, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply
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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. GermanKity (talk) 05:42, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. GermanKity (talk) 05:42, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. GermanKity (talk) 05:42, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well I don't have access previous article, I assume based on
WP:ENT It's notable since it has gained more subscribers and based on the arguments in this page. Mjbmr (talk) 07:09, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply
]

Keep: His YouTube channels have more than 4 million subscribers.-- Dewritech (talk) 09:48, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a valid argument for keeping. He could have 1 billion subscribers, but still not meet
WP:GNG. he needs significant news coverage.Peter303x (talk) 23:11, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply
]
@
WP:ENT. Mjbmr (talk) 05:31, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply
]
WP:ENT does not state that social media followers should be considered as a factor. It states that he needs to have significant roles in films and TV. If you want to consider Youtube as some kind of TV channel, then still he would need to have lot's of news coverage about his roles and he doesn't. Social media followers could be fake and bought, so it is not a reliable factor. Peter303x (talk) 08:46, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply
]
@Peter303x: Please read my first comment above, I believe you should be more active on more AfDs, such as this, apparently people believe if the article has a huge fan base then it's considered as notable. I actually refer to an article as "it" while you refer as "he", consider your POV. Mjbmr (talk) 10:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep nearly 4 million subscribers on his main channel should constitute a "large fan base or a significant "cult" following" to satisfy

WP:ENT
. However, the sources do need some cleanup

Source assessment table:
Source
Independent?
Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward
GNG
?
Man teaches kids to give, inspiring millions Yes Yes Local news Yes Has quotes from creator and insight Yes
Bay Area YouTuber Giving Away One Free Super Bowl Ticket Yes Yes Local news Yes Has quotes from creator and insight Yes
Michael Jackson 'speaks to ghost hunter from beyond the grave' in bizarre video Yes No WP:DAILYSTAR No Just a link to video and summary No
The 5 spookiest haunted Delaware videos of 2019 (so far) Yes ? Unsure about reliability of Technical.ly No Just a link to video and summary No
10 Sad Photos Of Cars Discovered Underwater (5 Found In Deserts) Yes Yes Cars news website No Just a screenshot from a video No
Enviarse a sí mismo por correo y otros retos virales absurdos de 2016 Yes ? Unsure about reliability of El Mundo No Just a link to video and summary No
Prankster hands out brand new socks and shoes to the homeless Yes No WP:METRO No Just a link to video and summary No
He Wanted to Teach His Son to Care for the Homeless, But No One Saw This Coming (VIDEO) Yes Yes Online Christian Newspaper No Just a link to video and summary No
They Washed the Feet of the Homeless, But One Surprise Left a Volunteer in Tears Yes Yes Online Christian Newspaper No Just a link to video and summary No
Caméra cachée : il demande de l'argent et à manger à des sans-abri, leurs réactions sont touchantes Yes ? Unsure about reliability of Purebreak No Just a link to video and summary No
Tampa man buys homeless man ticket home Yes Yes Local news Yes Has quotes from creator and insight Yes
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

In summary, despite a significant fanbase, there haven't been many sources to satisfy GNG besides local news coverage, but the coverage does go beyond

WP:ROUTINE in my opinion, so it just barely passes. Note I have since removed the Daily Star and Metro sources as they're uncontroversially unreliable. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 13:47, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply
]

Most of the sources are self-published or PR and do not satisfy
WP:ORGIND. GermanKity (talk) 04:21, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply
]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 06:32, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Sources do not have in-depth coverage and there is not that many sources. Peter303x (talk) 23:09, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep Per above, per
    WP:GNG. Mjbmr (talk) 05:31, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete. Fails
    WP:NOTNEWS. The sources are human interest puff pieces, and are mainly local news. There's not enough here to warrant an encyclopedia entry.4meter4 (talk) 13:19, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – bradv🍁 15:19, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep, as per Qwaiiplayer's source analysis above. MrsSnoozyTurtle 11:01, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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