Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oxford–Cambridge rivalry

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The result was keep. Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 12:42, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oxford–Cambridge rivalry

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This article is currently a complete mess, mainly consisting of original research about similarities and differences between Oxford and Cambridge. Of the sources cited, AFAICT, only this one from the Oxford maths department discusses rivalry at all. My own searches turned up only this from BBC Travel/Lonely Planet and this in the NYT. The BBC article is really about differences between them rather than going into any detail about the rivalry. The NYT article is just a general update on ongoings at both universities at the time. Unless there are other sources out there, I don't think that this merits it's own article, and if there is any salvagable content, it can be moved to Oxbridge. SmartSE (talk) 14:58, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The article leading with similarities and differences is clunky and unnecessarily sectioned, but the claims made in 'Undergraduate admissions criteria', 'Direct competition between the two universities', and 'University rankings' are well-sourced and relevant. Propose copy edit tag and removal/restructuring of sections 1-3 Epsilon.Prota (talk) 15:34, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education and United Kingdom. SmartSE (talk) 14:58, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Rescope the article into direct antagonism between the universities (such as sports and stuff). At least, all sources cited should at least be directly about the relationship between the two universities, so that we don't have synthesis in the article. At present, there is an atrocious amount of synthesis and other original research here. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:29, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Article is a clear candidate for
WP:TNT (blow up and start over). One way to fix would be to narrow the topic. Most of the current content belongs in Oxford–Cambridge academic rivalry which you could keep separate from sports and other rivalries. See also: Harvard–Yale football rivalry, Harvard–Yale hockey rivalry, Harvard–Yale Regatta. Delete all unsourced content and rework only using sources that directly address the historic rivalry, per PP, to avoid OR. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:35, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 10:17, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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