Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prom Pact
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was soft delete. Based on
"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 19:20, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
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Prom Pact
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Article about an as yet unreleased film, not properly demonstrated as the subject of sufficient production coverage to exempt it from the primary notability criteria at
WP:NFO. This was originally created in draftspace, and had been declined by an AFC reviewer for not yet being shown to meet the notability criteria for films -- but then earlier today it was arbitrarily moved out of process by an editor who is not an AFC reviewer on the grounds that "This movie has completed post production. Typically an article is moved to the mainspace once it has started filming".
Except that the standard rule is not that films are automatically notable just because it's possible to verify that they're in the production pipeline -- under normal circumstances a film is not notable until it's released and getting reviewed by film critics, and making a film notable this far in advance of its release requires a significant volume of production coverage going far, far beyond just a couple of stray casting announcements. But this is just sourced to a couple of stray casting announcements, and the page-mover did not add even one new source that wasn't already in the article at the time of its AFC decline in July.
So obviously no prejudice against recreation next year when it is released and starts garnering the critical reviews that are essential to establishing a film's notability -- but a couple of casting announcements is not sufficient coverage to already get it in the door today. Bearcat (talk) 16:29, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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Except that the standard rule is not that films are automatically notable just because it's possible to verify that they're in the production pipeline -- under normal circumstances a film is not notable until it's released and getting reviewed by film critics, and making a film notable this far in advance of its release requires a significant volume of production coverage going far, far beyond just a couple of stray casting announcements. But this is just sourced to a couple of stray casting announcements, and the page-mover did not add even one new source that wasn't already in the article at the time of its AFC decline in July.
So obviously no prejudice against recreation next year when it is released and starts garnering the critical reviews that are essential to establishing a film's notability -- but a couple of casting announcements is not sufficient coverage to already get it in the door today. Bearcat (talk) 16:29, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and United States of America. Bearcat (talk) 16:29, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. There just isn't enough coverage at this point in time to justify it having an article. We can keep the AfC article around (whomever is watching it can just make sure it doesn't go 6 months without some type of edit) and then once/if coverage comes available (as you said, likely reviews), it can be moved live. But at this point in time the coverage out there just isn't sufficient. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 15:59, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
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