Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richfield Senior High School

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. The votes were 16 "keep", 12 "delete" (including the nominator), and 2 "conditional" - which I count as "keep, but expand" votes, as the conditional nature suggests that the topic may not be inherently unencyclopedic, but merely so in its current presentation. --

Richfield Senior High School

Not notable. Cookiecaper 03:48, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Conditional - deleted if no verifiable NPOV facts can be found and referenced else keep as the wikipedia school policy tends to say. gren 04:38, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• delete, unless the article is improved rather than a list of teachers.
  Peregrine_^AY 04:39, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply
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• Conditional - if it can be proved via Wikipedia:schools that this deserves to stay, then it should, otherwise DELETE! -mysekurity 04:51, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. I got rid of the faculty list (it could be added back in later, but its wiki markup is bad) and added some information found online. Schools are notable. Christopher Parham (talk) 05:01, 2005 July 10 (UTC)
• Keep Notable school. Klonimus 06:45, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Schools are notable enough. The article now needs to be expanded. DarthVader 09:18, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete boring, has pupils, teachers, address, no evidence of notability. Dunc|☺ 12:36, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: A Yellow Pages entry. It's a school! It has an address! So, how is this different from my local donut shop? At least my local donut shop makes uniquely delicious doughnuts. Geogre 13:28, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• I lived in Minnesota for five years and I never heard of this place. Article, if kept, needs to be wikified and expanded. That being said, I've seen far worse school articles, so weak keep, pending expansion. Hermione1980 15:06, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lived in MN for five years and you've never heard of Richfield? I guess that's not so odd. Anyway, Richfield is an unremarkable suburb, and this high school is an unremarkable high school in that suburb. Delete unless significantly expanded to establish notability. AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 20:58, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
• Stong Keep. Wikipedia:schools. Can we stop nominating schools now? Pburka 18:06, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep — with a big rubber stamp... — RJH 18:49, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Deletionist nonsense to nominate this school. It's as "notable" as any of the other public schools on Wikipedia. It's a public school in suburban Minneapolis. The article is fine, non-POV stub. Keep! Moncrief 20:18, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia:Schools is a proposed policy and this school is non-notable even by the criteria specified there. If we're making an exception to the notability policy for schools, that's fine with me and I'll even add a few that are close to my heart, but it doesn't seem that that has been determined. Cookiecaper 20:26, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment'. I'm sorry but that's simply false. This is the only thing Wikipedia:Schools says about notability:

      It is tempting for some people to set a bar of notability for schools, such as by age, size or press coverage. However, any such criteria have proven to be controversial. Thus, the only fitting criterion is how much verifiable, NPOV information can be found on the school.

    • In other words, no notability criteria are to be applied to schools.
    • And incidentally the page you cite couldn't be a "notability policy" or any other kind of policy because it isn't a Wikipedia policy. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 22:15, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • Oh great, you can't be bothered to look at an article and decide if it's notable because of what's in the article, be it BEEFSTEW or otherwise, so you give up. While we're at it then, let's create articles on Richfield Chip Shop, Richfield Pond, Richfield Field and Mike's auto repairs, Richfield, and don't forget Tony the Ice Cream man from Richfield. Dunc|☺ 23:15, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • It's not that I can't be bothered to see what's in the article, it's that I think that what the article is about that is more important. Content is a matter of editing. Schools exist and are very interesting institutions, so the solution to lack of content in a school article is to add more content. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 01:28, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
        • Keep Comparing schools to chip shops brings deletionism into disrepute. CalJW 01:53, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question: WHO has argued deletion on the grounds of "notability?" All of these wonderful "rubber stamp" keep votes argue against deletion on the grounds of notability. Well, that's great, except that the rubber stamp belongs to some other debate, some other article, some other instance. READ THIS ARTICLE before you vote. Frankly, anyone who hasn't read it, and whose rationale isn't applicable to the nomination, should have his or her vote discounted. Read the article. Improve it, or vote to delete it, or vote to keep it based on something in the article. Rubber stamps are troll tools. Geogre 12:58, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Who has argued that the school is non-notable? The user, Cookiecaper, who nominated it, for one. People tend to respond to the argument of the nominator - and that was the two-word argument Cookiecaper put forth. At any rate, I've edited the article a bit. Moncrief 16:36, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
    • You vote on an article based on its notability, not its content. Sometimes articles that deserve content (and you cna find verifiable content for) are bad and need to be improved. That has little relation on whether or not we should keep it. It's a school with verfiable NPOV facts referenced and no matter how the article is written that does not change. We don't only keep good articles, in fact, there are thousands of obviously notable but bad articles. For some subjects rubber stamps works, like for disctricts within states with census data, if they reference the data while having a horrible article we do not delete it. gren 04:48, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, VfD history suggests schools are notable. Dcarrano 22:48, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, FroggyMoore 23:16, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Not Notable --Eliezer 00:54, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Schools are enduring community/government institutions and in my opinion are just as encyclopedic as highways, legislators, governent ministries, and so on. Tobycat 01:00, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete notability not established. JamesBurns 08:11, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep for the purpose of ending school debates. Xoloz 08:41, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Notability not established. Jayjg ^(talk) 15:37, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete schoolcruft
  t c 15:54, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply
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• Keep. Schools are notable. Almafeta 20:56, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• keep please and stop this Yuckfoo 22:34, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Felgercarb. Gamaliel 00:28, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. If it's good enough for Darth Vader, that's good enough for me. —RaD Man (talk) 02:45, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, does not indicate notability. Gazpacho 03:54, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep; those who created the entry thought it worthy. Banno 21:37, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Its just another school. Nabla 03:37, 17 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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