Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robin Haley

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The result was delete. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 20:18, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Robin Haley

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Little to nothing in the search engines on this individual. Being trained by someone slightly notable does not help as notability is not inherited.ALongStay (talk) 02:00, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Subject lacks notability and only mentioned in one book. Meatsgains (talk) 02:48, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep this passes notability. Added info.

Was a champion of a second tier MMA organization.
Was ranked in the top 10 of a weight class or top pound for pound list.
Fought at least two (2) professional fights for top tier MMA organizations

Thus it passes

WP:NSPORTS. --MurderByDeletionism^"bang!" 03:11, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply

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I used MMA as a guideline since this is related to martial arts. Sorry for being unclear about that. Women have fewer sports organizations with less opportunities for them so sometimes info is a bit sparse. Two US national championships silver medals is significant. --MurderByDeletionism^"bang!" 22:52, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why not use
WP:MANOTE, which would apply to judo? Clearly she doesn't pass MMA guidelines since she was never a pro MMA fighter. Niteshift36 (talk) 18:41, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply
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Comment - MurderByDeadcopy care to give an actually reason as to why the article is notable? Your vote, to be honest, does not amount to much if it is just a baseless statement.ALongStay (talk) 03:28, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The subject has nothing to do with MMA and hence the statements listed by User:MurderByDeadcopy are false.Peter Rehse (talk) 12:40, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:44, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:44, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:44, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

keep or userfy Easily Passes

WP:MANOTE as it states "Repeated medalist (as an adult black belt, i.e. 1st dan equivalent or higher rank) in another significant event; - (e.g. competitors from multiple nations or significant national tournament, not an internal school champion)" She won two silver medals in a significant national tournament " US NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS CHICAGO" and " US NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS ST. LOUIS MO" [1] CrazyAces489 (talk) 15:44, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Delete. Per nom. Niteshift36 (talk) 18:41, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:55, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per CrazyAces489 as this appears to pass
Merry Christmas!: ...And a Happy New Year!) 08:07, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply
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Please read

WP:VAGUEWAVE. Simply stating it meets x policy or per this person arguments are all arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. Mkdw ^talk 02:24, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Delete MANOTE is merely an essay on notability. I do not see any arguments in the keep camp that this individual meets
WP:SIGCOV. Without demonstrating this individual does, there is no policy based argument -- only essay based arguments which do not supersede notability policy. Mkdw ^talk 00:15, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply
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Keep - article could use expansion and clean-up (not deletion) per
WP:ATD policy. Hmlarson (talk) 02:03, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Delete - Notability essays should provide guidance on minimum criteria which a person would likely need to achieve in order to attract
WP:GNG. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:10, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply
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