Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Royal Club (brand)

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The result was keep. MelanieN (talk) 23:51, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Club (brand)

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seems to fail

• Delete: In the Dutch Wikipedia this is just a redirect to the (reference-free) Vrumona article, where this brand gets a passing mention. Neither there nor in searches am I seeing anything amounting to substantial coverage that would amount to
  notability. AllyD (talk) 07:33, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply
  ]

  The quality of Dutch Wikipedia articles should not matter in the deletion process here. – Editør (talk) 07:23, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 15:08, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 15:08, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - this is one of the biggest selling mixer brands in Holland (exact figures are hard to source online but the few I've found indicate a third-place overall market share in the Netherlands soft drinks sector?), and a staple product of any online shop selling Dutch goods. There aren't many good-quality secondary sources but the brand is featured quite a bit on Dutch food and drink blogs [1]. Not sure if anyone can find better sources to verify, but this is a big Dutch brand and definitely notable. ✤ Fosse 8 ✤ 14:33, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete at best for now as I have found no particularly better sources and this is likely going to have archived and non-English sources, so Draft or restore if needed later, but there's nothing suggesting of obvious improvements at this time. SwisterTwister talk 21:34, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. This is indeed a well-known brand, and I spent a few minutes finding and adding a few sources. The brand has been around for decades, and the lack of sourcing is a bit dismaying. Still, I think I found enough to at least indicate that this is a notable brand. I still remember the slogans from the radio ads, for instance. The Banner, do you have anything for us? Drmies (talk) 03:05, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment – If not independently notable, this could be merged to List of soft drinks by country § Netherlands. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:03, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Well known brand, I have added an incident with reliable third party source. The Banner talk 10:28, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mix met Royal Club, geen gewone club! Drmies (talk) 16:45, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• A few points: [1.] Notability, verifiability, etc, are not an issue here so deleting should be off the table. [2.] It would have been better if the parent Vrumona had an en.wiki article before Royal Club, or if, at the very least, Vrumona and Royal Club would be mentioned in the Heineken articles. [3] I looked into renaming Royal Club into Vrumona but the information here really is about the Royal Club brand. Bottomline: it is what it is and it is notable so keep. gidonb (talk) 03:52, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:52, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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