Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scarlotte Deupree
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 21:16, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Scarlotte Deupree
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Former beauty pageant contestant that is a case of
]- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Women, Beauty pageants, and Alabama. Let'srun (talk) 23:41, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Deupree won Miss Alabama and came in as the runner-up at Miss America 2003. I feel that's significant since it's the biggest beauty pageant competition in the country and the Top 5 is basically the pageant equivalent of a podium spot. Had she just won Miss Alabama and not won any other awards or pageants, I might agree, but right off the back, that is more than being famous for one thing. So I am voting keep.KatoKungLee (talk) 03:53, 26 July 2023 (UTC)]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:43, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete because the subject fails Wikipedia:Notability. BLP1E or not, the subject must still pass WP:BASIC. I believe she does not. The only source that maybe qualifies under the GNG is a very small local newspaper. Here is a source assessment table:
Source assessment table: prepared by User:IAmHuitzilopochtli
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| Source | Independent?
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Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG ?
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| Greenville Advocate |  Yes.
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? It is unclear whether or not this local newspaper (which doesn't even have its own wiki page) is reliable, but I currently have no reason to doubt the reliability as of now. | The entire article is focused on Scarlotte.
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? Unknown |
| Miss Alabama website |  The subject competed in this competition.
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Mentioned in a list of winners.
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✘ No |
| Miss America website | The subject competed in this competition.
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Routine database entry.
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✘ No |
| Kilgore Firm website | Her husband's firm.
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Just a passing mention that she is his wife.
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✘ No |
| Literary Council website | She is on the board
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Just a passing mention that confirms she is indeed on the board.
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✘ No |
| Alpha Delta Pi website | Her sorority.
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Just a passing mention of her in a list of pageant winners who were members.
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✘ No |
| Samford University website | Her college.
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Short as it is, technically SIGCOV. Still not independent.
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✘ No |
| Troy University website | The college the runner up to her attended.
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passing mention of her as the winner.
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✘ No |
| Jeff Sessions | Her senator, (whom she also interned for).
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A routine acknowledgment.
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✘ No |
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. | ||||
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 16:08, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, thanks for the source analysis! Fails WP:GNG, and I'm not sure what other SNG would apply. There is no consensus that beauty pageant participants or even winners are inherently notable. Actualcpscm scrutinize, talk 15:54, 16 August 2023 (UTC)]
- Comment not all sources are in depth sources individually, but note that WP:NBASIC states: “If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability” 109.37.150.153 (talk) 17:03, 16 August 2023 (UTC)]
- Comment2 Greenville Advocate looks indeed reliable and indendant. Has a wikidata item (here) and is added manually to the list of missing articles for newspapers and Alabama and Alabama newspapers. 109.37.150.153 (talk) 17:10, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep I think these sources are independent: bizjournals.com, styleblueprint.com and another source of Greenville Advocate 109.37.150.153 (talk) 17:20, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:30, 17 August 2023 (UTC)- Delete per source table above. Nothing for GNG, some confirmation of the pageants she's participated in. Oaktree b (talk) 14:16, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment @IAmHuitzilopochtli: Greenville Advocate is a reliable newspaper. I have provided a Library of Congress record [1] to prove their validity as a legitimate newspaper organization. Local news stations and newspapers are considered reliable unless proven otherwise. It does not change the rest of the source analysis beyond this one source, which will count towards GNG. Conyo14 (talk) 21:26, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- Weak delete I hate to say it but it appears that she probably doesn't pass WP:GNG. The only thing going for her is the small local newspaper. What about the sources the IP posted earlier? Has anyone looked at those? Dusti*Let's talk!* 11:19, 24 August 2023 (UTC)]
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