Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sipho Tshabalala

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Sipho Tshabalala

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This particularly confirms it's not fabricated but instead a rather obscure bio but my searches also found results for a professor and a soccer player (here and here) and the few relevant sources aren't very convincing of improvement. There's no target for moving elsewhere and I'd like to get a consensus if this can be improved. SwisterTwister talk 04:28, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The name is very common in Swaziland as well as South Africa, so it will be difficult to sort any actual references to the subject from numerous false positives:

• The first result in the Google search link mentioned above, for instance, comes from a man with this name protesting conditions in "the society I helped see born in 1994," which clearly rules out the article's subject.
• The third result is a participant in a 1999 criminal trial.
• The fourth result is a soccer goalkeeper from 1971.
• The fifth result is connected to a home demolition story from 1977.
• The seventh result is a young man "growing up during and after the apartheid era."

So far, no evidence has been found for the subject's writing career or for the supposedly "famous" book Kati ya Shujaa, which appears to be the subject's main claim to fame; if the book earned enough significance to draw serious British disapproval, there should be many such references to this. In addition, the article shows two contradictory years of death (1928 and 1939) and comes from a single-purpose account with no other edits. Much of the content still has

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:30, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:30, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I was unable to source this. Flag me if you find sources. I will not repeat Calamondin12 sophisticated and compelling comments, I will only add that Swaziland is a tiny country and that a vast amount of scholarly attention has been paid to South Africa's peoples and their literature over the last half-century, most of that attention has been in English, and if this writer/novel was notable, I would expect to be able to find it - even if the transliterations are incorrect.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:28, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete unsourced, and fails
  WP:V Kraxler (talk) 01:53, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
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