Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susheela Jayapal

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The result was no consensus‎. Daniel (talk) 22:31, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Susheela Jayapal

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Delete. Candidates do not get Wikipedia articles just for being candidates per se — the notability test at

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Mpen320 (talk) 23:52, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Mpen320 (talk) 23:52, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. Mpen320 (talk) 23:52, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. Mpen320 (talk) 23:52, 1 November 2023 (UTC) Mpen320 (talk) 23:52, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: I think this article could meet
  WP:NPOL's local politician criteria (lots of articles about her, the first Indian American elected to a county office in the state). I think I'm a soft keep here. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 01:26, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Strong Oppose Jayapal's announcement has received multiple dedicated articles by national outlets ([1], [2], [3], [4] [5], [6]) in less than 24 hours, in addition to extensive local coverage ([7], [8], [9]). Prior to this she has been routinely covered by reliable local outlets for multiple years. In my opinion the bar for
  general notability has already been met, and there will certainly be more national coverage of this race. She is also the first and only Indian American ever elected in Oregon which is significant given the state's demographics. Jamedeus (talk) 01:40, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
  ]
  • Reply. The extensive coverage you cite is run of the mill announcement coverage in part due to her relationship to her sister. As mentioned in my nomination, notability is not inherited. Additionally,
    Lar Daly). While in some circumstances a "first" can cause one to meet GNG or NPOL, first Indian American in a particular US state is a very narrow first even if that US state does not have a large Indian-American population. I'm not saying she is not accomplished. I'm saying she does not meet GNG or NPOL at this time. Also, you may want to edit your "Strong Oppose" to "Strong Keep," to reflect you wish for the article to be kept and avoid confusion.--Mpen320 (talk) 19:57, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
• Keep I think there is sufficient coverage of her election and service on the Multnomah County Commission to meet GNG. --Enos733 (talk) 16:54, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  To clarify, I agree with Bearcat (below) about the standard we should evaluate local county commissioners and political candidates. I just think there is sufficient sourcing to draft an article about her policies and votes on the Commission that would merit a stand-alone article. There are articles about her election outside of Oregon, in the Seattle Times and the India Post. There are multiple articles about her work on the Commission, largely in Willamette Week. All of this is prior to her announcement for Congress, where coverage has increased. - Enos733 (talk) 18:51, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Every candidate in every election everywhere can always show some evidence of campaign coverage — so if campaign coverage were in and of itself sufficient to exempt a candidate from
  ten year test for enduring significance anyway (which hasn't been shown to be on the table here at all.) Bearcat (talk) 17:10, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Keep. I believe that the subject in the article is notable enough to warrant an article and meets Wikipedia's standards of notability. Jayapal is a current office holder for a major US government (Multnomah County, which has a population of over 800,000). If she does not meet the notabilty guidelines, then we should delete the articles for all of Portland's city commissioners, who represent a smaller level of government with a smaller population. Jayapal has been featured in several news articles from outside of the immediate area for her work unrelated to her candidacy. PortlandSaint (talk) 03:49, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reply. She is technically not the incumbent. As far as "then we should delete the articles for all of Portland's city commissioners," you are more than welcome to do propose this.
    The existence of other articles of a similar nature is not grounds to keep this article.--Mpen320 (talk) 20:50, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 03:59, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I agree that the sources are just routine coverage of a politician being elected. As said before,
  Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS
  makes PortlandSaint's argument irrelevant.

Industrial Insect (talk) 19:43, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:30, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist as this is looking like a No consensus closure.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:47, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep A lot of this coverage is run of the mill, but I think there is just barely enough here to warrant keeping.
  Talkback) 19:11, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Delete: Subject does not meet the
  WP:NPOL, and most of the coverage she has received seems to be ROTM. Let'srun (talk) 04:09, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
  ]

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