Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Toxic Gossip Train

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:27, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Toxic Gossip Train

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Non-notable music piece, could perhaps merge into the article about the individual. Has not charted. Oaktree b (talk) 19:52, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Oaktree b (talk) 19:52, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:12, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:21, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Colleen Ballinger or delete While there is a decent amount of coverage of the song, there's not a lot here that isn't already mentioned in the biography. I'm also a little worried it may content fork content that wouldn't make it into the BLP, but may make it into an article about the song. Not convinced it's notable enough for a standalone article either. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 20:43, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect or Delete Slightly fails
  WP:10YT effect of this song, which is made prominent due to the notability of the controversy. TulsaPoliticsFan said this pretty well already. Sparkl^talk 00:35, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Redirect or Delete I created this article under the impression that this was an official single released by Colleen Ballinger but since it has been stated by Ballinger's legal representatives that the single was illegally uploaded to Ballinger's official accounts by a third party. While the article could be reworked into an article about the video in which the song was sung, "hi.", this seems unusual to me. I do think this will be considered one of the most infamous "apology" videos in the future, due to the news coverage, the fact that she sings a 10 minute song as her "apology" and because she did not really apologize at all in it. However, other notable infamous YouTuber apology videos (e.g. Laura Lee, Tati Westbrook, Logan Paul, James Charles, Shane Dawson, Jeffree Star) do not have Wikipedia articles. I think the information featured in this article can be summarized in the Colleen Ballinger article, as were the videos for the aforementioned YouTubers.

Andthereitis (talk) 06:44, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect A useful search term, given the coverage that the song has received. As an aside, this is a current event and a standalone article could be worthwhile in future, if this aspect of the story keeps developing. MrsSnoozyTurtle 00:21, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Rework into Colleen Ballinger apology video - the topic is notable, but the article shouldn't be about the single, but the apology video itself. Skyshifter ^talk 02:47, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect or Delete Fails
  WP:EVENTCRIT. Hasn’t been released by Ballinger, and there is coverage in her article already. - SchroCat (talk) 23:15, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Comment Rather than a merge the controversy and allegations should be its own article, while this is renamed with other information put in. 173.168.100.26 (talk) 23:32, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  If it is not notable as a music piece that does not change that the controversy and allegations are notable as a general subject. 173.168.100.26 (talk) 23:34, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Copied mostly from the Colleen Ballinger article, where the relevant text is being thoroughly discussed on the Talk page. Note that this song is not available for sale. -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:03, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - cut and paste from another site Jack1956 (talk) 08:49, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails
  WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep^Talk 11:21, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Rework into hi. (Colleen Ballinger video) or something similar - the video is definitely notable as a video, even if the song is not. (Oinkers42) (talk) 20:01, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete -- The song itself is not notable nor has generated significant, quantifiable, evidence of musical notoriety. Rather, it is cultural significant. JohnDVandevert (talk)

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