Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UK Community Issues Party
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. An unusual situation where the author of the article argues for deletion and the nominator has withdrawn the nomination. I am not convinced that everybody will deem the party notable based on a few news stories, but there is certainly not a sufficient consensus for deletion at this time. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
UK Community Issues Party
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I have not been able to find a reliable, independent, and secondary source offering non-trivial coverage of this party. As a result, I believe the article breaks
- delete completely non-notable, I'm afraid. Sticky Parkin 22:40, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - agree with JEdgarFreeman, no reliable independent secondary sources offering non-trivial coverage, so this should go. Warofdreams talk 23:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I would like to note that Warofdreams is the creator of the article. Thank you for your agreement that it should be deleted, Warofdreams. JEdgarFreeman (talk) 23:40, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 18:45, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
*Weak, qualified Keep: I just did a wholesale rewrite of the article. It might still have notability problems, but it is now in line with quality and sourcing guidelines. I don't think that the article in it current state would have attracted a RfD, even if it might still be of borderline notability. But now that I've invested time, I'm a little biased. Avram (talk) 05:05, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: There was a full-length story on the party in the local newspaper. Citation added to the article, along with a couple more mentions that add nice, third-party tidbits to the piece. Between the 3+ campaigns it has unsuccessfully participated in and the media coverage, I think this should pass ]
- Comment Of all the sources that are cited in the article, including the ones that have recently been listed, the closest I have come to discovering a "full-length story", is this source [1]. This source is mainly focused on a candidate of the party, as opposed to the party itself, which means that the source is not a "full-length story on the party". Having said that, the coverage of the party itself in the source is more than trivial, imo. However, WP:N states "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources [plural] that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be a suitable article topic." Unfortunately, of the other two sources that have been recently been listed by Avram (the third recently listed source was the one that I have addressed above), both are offering only trivial coverage, with one merely stating "UK Community Issues Party, led by Woking’s Michael Osman, stood in two wards and polled 110 votes across the two" with regards to the UK Community Issues Party; and the other stating that the UK Community Issues Party has registered a same complaint as the Labour Party did, with the Labour Party's complaint receiving the significant coverage in the source. In summary, whilst the first source I addressed does provide non-trivial coverage, WP:N states that multiple reliable, and independent sources offering significant coverage are needed, and I do not believe that has been statisfied by the article. Thank you for reading. JEdgarFreeman (talk) 10:57, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment JEdgarFreeman, I understand your concern that this is a truly fringe party without any chance of going anywhere. I continued to look at Surrey news, and found a couple more pieces of information. Taken together, I feel that the half-dozen small-to-medium mentions of the party amount to pretty good evidence that this is a persistent gadfly in local politics. The party, broadly speaking, has fielded candidates at least four times, and it's still active. Resilience, continued media interest (even not so major interest), long-term participation in political processes-- what else can you ask for? No, it's not going to win. Avram (talk) 12:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Of all the sources that are cited in the article, including the ones that have recently been listed, the closest I have come to discovering a "full-length story", is this source [1]. This source is mainly focused on a candidate of the party, as opposed to the party itself, which means that the source is not a "full-length story on the party". Having said that, the coverage of the party itself in the source is more than trivial, imo. However, WP:N states "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources [plural] that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be a suitable article topic." Unfortunately, of the other two sources that have been recently been listed by Avram (the third recently listed source was the one that I have addressed above), both are offering only trivial coverage, with one merely stating "UK Community Issues Party, led by Woking’s Michael Osman, stood in two wards and polled 110 votes across the two" with regards to the UK Community Issues Party; and the other stating that the UK Community Issues Party has registered a same complaint as the Labour Party did, with the Labour Party's complaint receiving the significant coverage in the source. In summary, whilst the first source I addressed does provide non-trivial coverage, WP:N states that multiple reliable, and independent sources offering significant coverage are needed, and I do not believe that has been statisfied by the article. Thank you for reading. JEdgarFreeman (talk) 10:57, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Avram, firstly, thank you for the work you have put into the article. It has definetly improved. Unfortunately, I do not believe it now passes ]
- Comment JEdgarFreeman, I think that the 2005 UK general election also have articles. Again, imagine this article hadn't been so abysmal in the first place. I don't think we'd think twice about keeping it. Avram (talk) 08:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Unfortunately, ]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.