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The result was delete. There is obvious meat puppetry going on here and none of the keep votes stacked up against a devastating source analysis. If this gets recreated please ping me to look into the possibility of further coi editing

Spartaz Humbug! 19:00, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Vaibhav Vinay Maloo

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Some of the sources are newer, but it's the same mix of obvious paid puff pieces, press releases, passing mentions, and doesn't-even-mention-hims. His company and his father might be notable, but notability is not inherited on Wikipedia. Editors searching for any significant, independent coverage I might have missed, please note that his name is commonly spelled Vaibhav Maloo, which was salted following repeated deletion and sockpuppetry. Storchy (talk) 13:39, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:21, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I hope this is helpful to editors wading through the references to determine whether his notability has increased since the last deletion. Storchy (talk) 11:36, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Please review Storchy's source analysis just added today to the discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:57, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Neither is a secondary source. The first is a marketing blog, and the second is an obvious paid
    puff piece with no byline. I've added both to the source analysis above. This must be costing someone a fortune in fees. Storchy (talk) 11:41, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
That Daily Guardian website also says "We accept sponsored blog posts and SaaS product reviews on Thedailyguardian.com . This is a business and marketing blog for entrepreneurs, and business brands."
Outlook India likewise carries both real journalism and puff pieces. In this case, there is a very clear disclaimer, "OUTLOOK FOR BRANDS", at the top. If you have a browse through
WP:SPONSORED content is not considered a reliable source. Storchy (talk) 12:55, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
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  • No, there's no rule against adding a half-hour old press release to the bio of a businessman. It's just bloody odd. Here's a quote from that totally credible reference:

    Vaibhav sees to cherishing the high-techs and ways to improve the management techniques to win the race. Claiming a flexible mindset, he asserts, “The technique of surgical operator helps him with the ability to execute tasks with minimal recurring costs and lighter books.”

Yeah, seems legit. 😀 Storchy (talk) 09:47, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep : Comments are too harsh, and some comments are undermining all of Indian media, and his notability is clear. Article should be cleaned up and diverted to "Vaibhav Maloo" as there are multiple sources for the same facts. Nuttyprofessor2016 (talk)
  • Delete : All of the sources seem to be puff pieces. Definitely fails
    WP:GNG. Padgriffin Griffin's Nest 18:04, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep I checked out the source analysis by Storchy. About [1] I am not convinced why he rejected the link and did not accept it as RS. I don not understand why the date of publishing is the matter fr him! About [2], You are right the portal accept sponsors for publish paid articles but important point is on sponsored post you will know that as it will be show up on link of article (https://thedailyguardian.com/sponsered/...) or sponsored tag will be show p at the top of article. Therefore only because of the portal accepted sponsors, we can not rejected it as unreliable source. Many of reliable and independent portals has sponsors. About [3], as you mentioned its reliable and short interview but alongside withe other sources it will be helpful to establish notability. With all due my respect I don not believe in your source analysis because your provided reason is with the purpose of rejecting! About reliable press you claimed that are short! about significant coverage you claimed they are unreliable because of date of publishing or accepting sponsors and ect. Anyway as an entrepreneur per receiving significant overages, recognition and award he passes
    WP:GNG. Ginbopewz (talk) 12:08, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Wikipedia has very careful definitions of what and who is notable enough for an encyclopaedia article. On Wikipedia, not all notable companies have notable heads, if all they've ever done is be the head of the company. The relevant guideline in this case is
    WP:NOTINHERITED helpful. Storchy (talk) 14:50, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Here are some other AFDs on non-notable heads of notable companies, for comparison:
Columns that he's written himself are primary sources. Can you find significant coverage of his work as a columnist, in reliable secondary sources? Because if he's a notable writer, then that might be worth pursuing. Storchy (talk) 15:56, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • His work has been duplicated but as himself as primary source. I know that. A combination of all this and leading the WORLD’S LARGEST CYCLOTHON (by number), I think he should be fine. Floor is open.
Nuttyprofessor2016 (talk) 16:17, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
According to the source cited he didn't lead the Tour de India, he "served in Tour de India organising body, ID Sports for a year". Storchy (talk) 16:29, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • He still shows as the MD on the official site. Please check. Served is a polite word for someone who has had an occupation.
http://www.tourdeindia.asia/aboutus.html Nuttyprofessor2016 (talk) 16:40, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that what "served" means in this context, but the reference in the article says "served for a year", not "serves". The reference you've just linked to appears to contradict the one in the article, but it does say that he's MD of ID Sports, who run the tour. I think I see why now: the Tour de India doesn't appear to have been held since 2013. You can certainly add that new reference though. Storchy (talk) 16:53, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No, it hasn’t since 2013. That year was the larger of the two. ID sports still manages the franchise. Nuttyprofessor2016 (talk) 17:34, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep As an executive officer, he could be notable. Being managing director, chairman or member of boarding of truss of multiple notable companies including
    Enso Care, Enso Healthcare and BSE, was covered by reliable sources that paasing mention of him just to specify his positions. I think [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10] and... would be enough to pass WP:GNG. ZanciD (talk) 20:48, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
These references are very poor as either press-releases, PR or interview or passing mentions or routine annoucements. None of them consisitute
WP:SECONDARY coverage that is NOT PR driven. scope_creepTalk 12:21, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
Effectively three
WP:SPA sleeper accounts, likely paid editors coming in to fudge the Afd. No interest in sources. scope_creepTalk 12:08, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
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