Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Warsangeli Dervish

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Warsangeli Dervish

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  Talk to my owner:Online 23:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply
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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 00:29, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Somalia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 00:29, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Bump Just bumping this to see your opinions
  talk) 19:58, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply
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• Comment It should probably be named 'Warsangeli (Dervish)' if it stays but I think the argument to delete need to clarify how Warsangali fits in to everything. I am not familiar with the subject(s) at all. A google book search returns enough results to confuse the issue. Is it notable and I just don't understand or is non-notable and I don't understand. Jeepday (talk) 17:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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    Habr Yunis
    were involved as well, to a much larger extent even but you don't see us making a "Habr Je'lo Dervish" page.

I'd suggest deleting the article as it is unsourced, breaks

• Keep. I have cited and updated with more academic sources in the article. Enough to show a pass of
  WP:GEOLAND. SultanSanaag (talk) 04:18, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply
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• • Comment
    Habr Yunis, Habr Je'lo, Dhulbahante, Ogaden and Majeerteen
    that were more involved in the movement than the Warsangeli yet it wouldn't make sense to write essays about each individual clan's contribution. Some of the sources that you added also don't connect with what's stated

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WP:GEOLAND. SultanSanaag (talk) 10:22, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply

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talk) 21:50, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply

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• Delete As stated by Dabaqabad earlier, the Dervish consisted of several sub-clans so it would prove redundant to make separate articles for each tribal segment. Furthermore, some of the sources included bares no relation to the supplementary text in the the article. For example: in page 41 of Margaret Lawrence's Heart of a Stranger, there is no mention of the term 'Maarraweyn' or anything else slightly resembling what is stated in the article. Moreover, the same can be said for the term 'Indhabaddan', which also brings no results within The Warrior Mullah - The Horn Aflame. Another source in contention is I.M. Lewis's A Pastoral Democracy, where the article states: "The English at the time described him as a "Man of unusual influence", "A man of mercurial image" and "A man of unusual strength". While it does state that a Warsangeli Garaad (unnamed in this case) had "Unusual influence" in page 210, there is no mention of "A man of mercurial image" and "A man of unusual strength". I have highlighted several cases of original research that were passed off by joining it with unrelated sources, so how can we confirm the veracity of the rest of the article?
  talk) 15:02, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply
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• Keep I agree with
  WP:GNG as per google book search results. There is also nothing to suggest that the sources are unreliable. HSA777 (talk) 05:43, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment Now that @
    talk) 14:44, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply
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• DeleteAs stated this article doesn’t meet
  talk) 07:09, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply
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