Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Water engine

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Anas ^talk? 12:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Water engine

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This appears to be a fringe theory with no assertion of notability. (Note that neither 'Carl Cella', his band 'Rampage', or the journal mentioned here, 'Psychadelic Illuminations', are notable enough to have articles themselves.) The article is utterly unsourced, with the exception of a link to an article written by Mr. Cella himself, who can hardly be considered 'reliable'. It admits 'accurate documentation of the engine is hard to find on the Internet', suggesting that even the page author is unable to find supporting material. If any evidence of notability/verifiability can be found, the claims here could be merged into Water-fuelled car. Terraxos 20:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete. I'm seeing lots of talk about this on the internet in blogs and fringe-theory sites, most of it coming from Cella himself, but nothing I could call a reliable source. If it is kept, it'll need to be rewritten from the reliable sources to make it clearer that the thing doesn't actually work. -FisherQueen (Talk) 21:10, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Delete as per Fisher. Actually, a Water Engine article would be welcome, although this one seems to be nothing but a link to a 2001 essay by the misunderstood genius, Carl Cella... as with the flying car and the perpetual motion machine, there have been others who claimed that they had made an engine powered by water. In fact, I saw such a person on American Inventor last night, so even if there is no such thing yet, there are such people. Mandsford 02:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. No independent sources to establish notability for this specific engine design. General concept is covered in water-fuelled car article. Gandalf61 10:08, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• I tried several keywords and would never have found water-fuelled car (especially since some of us spell it "fueled"). I hope that some redirects can be created, or even a name change. Maybe some of the stuff here can be merged into that. Mandsford 12:04, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Water-fueled car page covers the topic more than adequately, but needs a name change. There are no sources, and needless to say it is a load of bollocks. There are many more problems with the water fueled car than the fueltank going rusty LOL121.155.16.188 04:16, 7 July 2007 (UTC)pignut[reply
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• Delete. The article is incomplete and does not adequately represent the shortcomings of the design. Namely that it would still require a mobile source of electricity and if such a mobile source was available it would be many times more efficient to get it to drive an electric motor directly (thus forming an electric car). Cedars 10:22, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete obviously a hoax, and not a good one either: a rocker as the inventor? water s a fuel? (in fact it is not: it is the waste product). Hydrogen as a +2 ion? and many other absurd ideas. While such a thing as "water engine" exists, it is meant as a laboratory toy, is much older than described and has a much different design than described. Dan Gluck 14:15, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Unsourced and lists only one (probably minor if real) example of this type of scam. Given that these claims have appeared in other now-deleted articles [see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/HHO gas (4th nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brown's gas], there may be a basis for an article here, but not one like this. --EMS | Talk 02:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.