Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yadav Nathwani

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Former senator (maybe?), believed to be used by the subject and their relations/colleagues to promote subject. No immediate notability seen through current cites and historical ones Nightfury 08:47, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment from filer:- DeltaQuad, I note the page is fully protected, would you be able to add the AfD template to the page? Thanking you. Nightfury 08:49, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Note to the closer, this should be closed only 7 days from when the notice was posted 01:59, January 10, 2019.‎ -- ]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Nightfury 08:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Nightfury 08:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:POLITICIAN says "The following are presumed to be notable: Politicians and judges who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office, and members or former members of a national, state or provincial legislature." It has already been established that the length of tenure is not a deciding factor. What is your objection to notability other than you don't like the guy?--Mpen320 (talk) 17:24, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply
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You'll notice that I voted to keep the article. I was not saying that the entire article should be deleted, I was merely voicing concerns about COI and trying to determine the details here. Remember to
assume good faith with other users. Bkissin (talk) 02:16, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply
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I didn't mean accuse or to come off as accusing you of anything. I was just commenting on the COI itself. The deletion and the COI seemed like separate issues. I'm sorry I failed to make that point.--Mpen320 (talk) 21:54, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you read above or review the article's history, you'll see that ]
    • sounds like a meat puppet of NathwaniGeorge Orwell Peterson (talk) 02:38, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Again, false. I created the article, and I have no ties to the subject. Zero. Never have met him, couldn't pick him out of a police lineup, don't have an opinion of him, I'm not a Republican anyhow. But all that is irrelevant (especially my opinion of the subject). The reason I created this article is that I read in the Daily Herald that he was appointed to the Illinois Senate. I looked for a Wikipedia page on him and didn't see one, so I created one. Beyond that, however, what we're here to discuss isn't whether he's held two elected positions or not (that's irrelevant), or whether he's a political "wonk" (not even sure what that means -- are you trying to call him a political hack or an opportunist?). No, all we're here to discuss is: Is this subject notable by Wikipedia's well-established standards? The answer by a clear consensus that has been formed among Wikipedia users over the years is yes. Being in the upper legislature of a U.S. state automatically confers notability, regardless of the duration of that individual's time in office. Therefore, the subject of this article is notable. Jarvishunt (talk) 13:00, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • Jarvis Hunt is a local Wheaton/DuPage historical figure associated with Chicago Golf Club, so I assume you are a local guy, so you know, Mr. Nathwani is a local political Hack/Opportunist, regarding his Notability, this article is self-serving. But, if "the consensus" decides to keep this article, it should be very short, no-more than one paragraph. George Orwell Peterson (talk) 15:30, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
          • Wikipedia articles do not have to follow size restrictions. No matter what you think about the size of the person's notability claim, there is no such thing as "this person is only notable enough to have one short paragraph" vs. "that other person is notable enough to have a longer article" — if a person passes a notability criterion, then their article is always allowed to be as long or as short as the depth of
            reliable sourcing about them allows us to write. Notability criteria only govern whether a person qualifies to have an article at all or not, and once that test has been passed they do not impose any caps on how long their article is or isn't allowed to be. Bearcat (talk) 16:48, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Writing the article in a tone that reads more like an advertisement (or a press release, or a campaign brochure) than like a neutral, objective encyclopedia article. That can and does happen on Wikipedia, but it hasn't happened in this instance. Bearcat (talk) 22:53, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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