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November 13

Category:Human first names given to physical phenomena

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:35, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is not defining. I also don't see the point of this category. If it were to be fully populated, it would include most tropical storms, and not much else. -- Tavix (talk) 23:42, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I was trying to be inclusive of all storms that are tropical. I guess cyclone would be the correct term? -- Tavix (talk) 01:54, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete shared common names. Hurricanes were notable before we named them after, first women, then both men and women, and will be notable after we've retired all the names available and go back to numbering them. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:27, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • NotDelete but maybe Listify (creator). I still think it is an interesting collection especially for those interested in names and what exactly (objects, people, etc) the latter can represent.SoSivr (talk) 21:39, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. I consider this category similar in nature to the category Ship names, another subcategory of Category:Names.SoSivr (talk) 21:55, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Ottawahitech: since you thanked me for the creation of this category, please participate in the discussion and vote against deletion of this category.SoSivr (talk) 22:05, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Canavssing is not allowed. Pppery 00:25, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Articles with bare URLs for citations

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The result of the discussion was: Split. Timrollpickering 10:15, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is currently being filled by two maintainance templates: {{
Ref expand}}. These templates describe two different issues. The former can ususally be fixed by a script, whereas the latter is harder to fix, can only be done manually, and in some cases requires asking the editor who added the source. The current name is also incorrect for the latter template, as was the former name. Thus, these different yet related backlogs should be split into seperate categories. Pppery 23:28, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply
]

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Category:Apostolic Nuncios to Naples

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The result of the discussion was: rename per original nomination. – Fayenatic London 22:21, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: An opposed
speedy. Original nomination suggested changing "Naples" to "Kingdom of Naples" per the parent category Category:Ambassadors to the Kingdom of Naples. A copy of the speedy nomination is included below. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:11, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply
]
copy of speedy nomination
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: in order to consider an alternative that would create consistency the other way
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 21:56, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging the participants @Good Olfactory, Brandmeister, A ntv, and Peterkingiron: for their further comments. I am not supporting either the original or the alternative, but this CFD ought to settle for one or the other, rather than leaving inconsistent category names. – Fayenatic London 21:56, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Also pinging @Neddyseagoon and Tassedethe: as contributors to an earlier version of the French category. – Fayenatic London 22:02, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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AEL Limassol F.C.

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The result of the discussion was: rename Category:AEL FC managers to Category:AEL Limassol managers; merge Category:AEL FC players to Category:AEL Limassol players; rename Category:AEL BC players to Category:AEL Limassol (basketball) players. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:33, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The team was commonly known as AEL Limassol (uefa.com), with a Greek team also called themselves AEL FC from Larissa (which common name was disputed, UEFA use Larissa FC, the club just use AEL, media use AE Larissa and other combination) Nevertheless, the current category system was for the Cyprus club, which should be moved to distinguish the two clubs (a rough inspection, seem most of the wasn't mis-cated). Matthew_hk tc 15:13, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I also nominated
Category:AEL FC players to Category:AEL Limassol F.C. players
Category:AEL BC players to Category:AEL Limassol B.C. players (A.E. Larissa from Greek also have basketball section) Matthew_hk tc 15:15, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Matthew_hk tc 15:19, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 21:15, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The category names should match the article names - so Category:AEL Limassol players and Category:AEL Limassol (basketball) players. GiantSnowman 07:58, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • It seems like this is a straightforward
    WP:C2D
    case:
Rename Category:AEL FC managers to Category:AEL Limassol managers
Merge Category:AEL FC players to Category:AEL Limassol players
Rename Category:AEL BC players to Category:AEL Limassol (basketball) players
Marcocapelle (talk) 13:10, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it should be renamed.Bluesangrel (talk) 04:06, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Politics of the Palestinian territories

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Although no opposition was expressed to the first, or to the third as revised, the changes would make them inconsistent with sub-cats or parents respectively, so it seems to me that some actual support would be required in order to demonstrate sufficient consensus to make the changes. – Fayenatic London 22:44, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Reformulate - propose rename to Category:Mandatory Palestine geography stubs per Carlossuarez.GreyShark (dibra) 13:53, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The Palestinian territories is a geographic definition (areas under Palestinian control or partial control as referred by the UN), while the politics certainly belong to the geopolitical ruler of those territories - the Palestinian National Authority. Palestine is too generic, as is currently a disambig page.GreyShark (dibra) 16:47, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed the last one is a mashup on various topics - mainly of Mandatory Palestine, so probably rename to Category:Mandatory Palestine geography stubs will resolve this with later cleanup.GreyShark (dibra) 13:29, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose renaming Category:Treaties of Palestine. This category includes treaties entered into by the PLO, the Palestinian National Authority, and the State of Palestine. Which of these entities entered into the treaty usually depends of which entity was recognised at the time as a valid treaty-making body. There are a fair number of State of Palestine ones currently, and it's by no means overwhelming PNA ones. (In fact, at this stage, it's probably majority State of Palestine treaties.) It seems that the ambiguity here is helpful. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:49, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
How about renaming to Category:Treaties of the State of Palestine?GreyShark (dibra) 05:51, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That would probably be better. But, of course, several of them are treaties agreed to by the PLO or the PNA, with no claim even by Palestine that it was entering the agreement as a "State of Palestine", which is why I would support the status quo, since it accurately covers all three possible contingencies. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:11, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedian interested in football in Armenia

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Wikipedians interested in football in Armenia, Category:Wikipedians interested in football in Azerbaijan. – Fayenatic London 22:50, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Should be deleted Hovhannes Karapetyan 16:24, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

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Category:Customer experience management

Category:Nova Scotian Settler (Sierra Leone) families

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:29, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge per
WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:34, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Comment The version history of this category shows that it has already gone through another mysterious
    ping me[reply
    ]
  • Merge Per Nom for Now The main article is Nova Scotian Settlers so the category names should blindly match and this one article category isn't serving a navigational function. All that being said, I think the article should be renamed to add the "(Sierra Leone)" clarification since many readers would not expect the African connection. RevelationDirect (talk) 03:12, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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