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Category:Unblockable users

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete. One author blanked/deleted category. Nobody else was using it. Jehochman Talk 21:33, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category likely to be misused to place other editors in. No positive use can come of tagging editors (oneself or others) as "unblockable". Only can be used as a pejorative or to make some kind of
point. Liz Read! Talk! 20:40, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
]
Vandalism by an admin? I guess he could be unblockable. Liz Read! Talk! 21:44, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ha, ha, ha you can’t touch me. Jehochman Talk 22:50, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And now you've created the self-categorized Category:Undeletable categories? Maybe my calendar is wrong and it actually is April 1st. Someone else will have to tag this one and post a notice on Jehochman's talk page. I'm reportedly humorless. Liz Read! Talk! 18:59, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Political statement? Attempt at humor? Does it matter? Not constructive and not suitable for an encyclopedia. —Rutebega (talk) 21:52, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as creator. Humor, sarcasm and political statement. Please, we need to stop being so humorless and morale suppressing. Trying to cheer people up. Anybody can be unblockable. Just add yourself to the category. Jehochman Talk 22:16, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as humour and delete as likely to be abused. Or whatever. In any case, lighten up. I briefly considered making this a subcategory of Category:Undeletable categories, but I am not completely sure this would work. Hans Adler 23:57, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as humor. May help save some unwitting admin from trying to block, say, Cydebot and having things go sideways. – SJ + 01:39, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - the humor here seems to be in mocking a frustration/helplessness many people have felt, which is encapsulated in the concept of "unblockable". If it's not, then it's easily misconstrued given the present context (in addition to serving no actual purpose). If that puts me in "what's the matter, can't take a joke?" territory, so be it. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 02:01, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's meant to work the other way around. Users can mock the "unblockables" by putting themselves in the category. The idea should be that the rules apply equally to all. If you're unblockable than so am I. Jehochman Talk 02:07, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It may be intended for the purpose, but that's not the effect (IMO). Nobody actually identifies as an unblockable, so they are not mocked here. Regardless, that it's intended to mock one group rather than another, and could be interpreted as either, still points to it being inappropriate because categories aren't to mock people. If it doesn't mock people, it mocks the idea, which is what seems most logical to me, and goes back to what I said originally. Seems similar to creating a userbox that says "This user enjoys harassing and intimidating other Wikipedians with impunity." Amid discussions where people are feeling very vulnerable for being the subject of (or accused of, even) harassment and other problematic behavior, it's not helpful to make light. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:35, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, this one might be an exception to this general rule and the admin who closes this discussion could decide to keep. But typically, categories are supposed to be straight-forward, functional, not
pointy and make sense within the existing category structure, not be created for amusement's sake. This one seems likely to be misunderstood should newer editors come across it. Liz Read! Talk! 23:25, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:LF Top Songs

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete (G5). MER-C 09:07, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Doesn't seem to be notable. Only reference online seems to be youtube playlists. ~~
- talk 19:28, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
]

LF Top Songs - popular project official pages https://posts.google.com/share/ZazhHI6x, please do not delete ~~ 1hitsmusic

  • Delete - Overcategorization per
    WP:TOPTEN —Rutebega (talk) 19:57, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]

A page cannot be deleted because it represents the official music brand. ~~ 1hitsmusic —Preceding undated comment added 20:23, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - non-notable per nom, based on creator's actions it seems promotional.
    talk) 21:54, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete Created by a sock puppet of LTA Alex9777777 just for self-promotion purposes. --jdx Re: 00:45, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Clear self-promotion. None of the songs added to this category are primarily about "LF Top Songs" so should not be in this category. Should really be speedily deleted.
    talk) 06:06, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete -
    WP:G5 probably also applies —PaleoNeonate – 06:21, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Category:Women warriors

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:27, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: For some reason, "women warriors" doesn't strike me as correct grammar. I would write "male warriors" instead of "men warriors", for example, if there was such a category. If this is renamed, it obviously goes to reason that all similar subcategories should be renamed as well. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 18:03, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - this comes up at cfd from time to time (eg
    Oculi (talk) 22:54, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Comment Hi, I made the category some time ago, I picked "women warriors" because the childcategories I was putting into it were all named "women" instead of female so I assumed there was some traditional thing. I don't mind if it's renamed but Wikipedia aught to be more consistent with how it does things.
    talk) 06:01, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Category:People from Glandorf, Ohio

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:47, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Small one-county community with just one entry. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 17:04, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Emmen

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The result of the discussion was: rename.
(non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 15:02, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Per leading Category:Emmen, Netherlands and article Emmen, Netherlands. Also remove Category:Sport in Emmen for the same reasons. And move Category:Sportspeople from Emmen. gidonb (talk) 16:30, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Articles with audio generated from MIDI files

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 08:31, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: MIDI files can now be played without the Score extension (see Tech News), so {{Listen}} no longer does anything special for them, rendering this category obsolete. It will soon be empty for good. Nardog (talk) 11:59, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Victoria A. Fromkin Lifetime Service Award recipients

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 July 21#Category:Victoria A. Fromkin Lifetime Service Award recipients

Category:Kenneth L. Hale Award recipients

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 July 21#Category:Kenneth L. Hale Award recipients

Category:Grand Cross of the Royal Confraternity of San Teotonio

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 July 21#Category:Grand Cross of the Royal Confraternity of San Teotonio

Early medieval French people

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 September 22#Early medieval French people

Category:El Comité

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The result of the discussion was: delete. There was one editor who !voted "merge", but later said that they "do not object to deletion"; otherwise, there is consensus to delete the category.
(non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 05:42, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: delete, duplicate of Category:El Comité 1973‎. There is no need to merge, all articles are already in the target category. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:38, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • For what it is worth, the English WP article uses the English translation of "El Comité" as a synonym of "El Comité 1973" without referring to a literary group, while the Spanish WP article El Comité article has been deleted. In any case, as there is only one topic article while all others are biography articles, so there is no reason for having two categories. After merging it can still be parented to both the literary groups tree and to the magazines tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:52, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 08:36, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I consider that the categories refer to a two different things, one category is for a magazine and the other is for a literary group like Fayenatic mentioned before. For example, within the category of the magazine there are a couple of names of people that have collaborated with the magazine but not consider themselves as part of the group. I suggest to keep both categories.Borisf7 (talk) 17:04, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Incidental writers for the magazine should be purged anyway, per
    WP:PERFCAT. Less than a handful biographies remain with people are both involved in the literary group and with the magazine. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:16, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]

Marcocapelle, I agree with you, thank you for improving the categories.Borisf7 (talk) 18:58, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete without adding it to the literary movement category. We don't have enough content about the literary movement to warrant a category. It should of course be added if we add information about the movement but as is it doesn't belong. --Trialpears (talk) 23:04, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fair point, Trialpears. I do not object to deletion. – Fayenatic London 10:22, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional characters by status

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 08:34, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, a case of
WP:OCMISC, the subcategories have nothing specifically in common with each other apart from the fact that they are about fictional characters. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:56, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply
]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Socialist Party (Italy, 2007, De Michelis) politicians

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 08:36, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category concerning two members of a party who lived only four months. It is unnecessary.
talk) 14:04, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply
]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Public universities in Greece

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 08:34, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: In Greece, all universities are public, as mentioned for instance here. There is therefore no reason to single out the 3 universities currently in this category from the other universities. Place Clichy (talk) 12:44, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fairies and sprites in television

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Television about fairies and sprites. MER-C 09:37, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:NONDEFINING, it simply categorizes all shows that feature the element without actually being noteworthy for it. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:58, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply
]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Rename to Category:Television about fairies and sprites and trim television which doesn't have fairies/sprites as main characters. Some television does though (e.g. The Fairly OddParents, The Lampies, Rilu Rilu Fairilu) and a category for programmes based around similar folklore seems defining enough for me. — Bilorv (he/him) (talk) 16:14, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment "television which doesn't have fairies/sprites as main characters" What about Gargoyles (TV series)? The main heroes (and several of the supporting characters and antagonists) are shape-shifting gargoyles. Most of the series' villains and antagonists are fairies (such as Oberon, Titania, and Puck), human-fairy hybrids (such as Fox/Janine Renard), or have gained their powers and immortality through fairy magic (such as Demona and Macbeth, who were granted powers by the fairy trio known as the Weird Sisters/Three Witches). Dimadick (talk) 06:40, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename to Category:Television about fairies and sprites per Bilrov. It is defining for some pages. I think Gargoyles (TV series) should be included based on Dimadick's description, but I'm not familiar with the show nor have read the article. --Trialpears (talk) 22:49, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rome Prize winners

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 15:02, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: delete per
WP:NONDEF, the award is often not even mentioned in the article of the people in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:32, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
]
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