Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 31

Add links
Source: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
<
Log
< December 30 January 1 >

December 31

Category:Churches by patron saint

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:30, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The churches in question have nothing in common except that they are named after the same saint; this is textbook case of
WP:SHAREDNAME. - choster (talk) 22:07, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply
]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Pompeii (gens)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 19#Category:Pompeii (gens)

Category:Jose Mari Chan

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: speedy delete per
G5. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 14:42, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary parent category per
WP:OCEPON and numerous precedent. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:07, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply
]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Female suicides

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: convert to container category, which will hold Category:Female suicide bombers and Category:People who committed sati. Remove the articles from the category. This category can be renominated for further discussion as needed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:07, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-diffusing trivial intersection that does not aid navigation. Categories are not a place for collecting statistics on comparative gender. All the suicides are already by date, so this is just a second/third/fourth tag by sex. The few relevant subcategories are already heavily cross-categorized. The others (actors, models, writers) are already up for deletion.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:56, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle per nom, but add any remaining subcategories (probably only a few subcategories, most will have been deleted after earlier nominations) to Category:Suicides and Category:Death of women. Also, is it entirely certain that all suicides in this category have already been categorized by date? If not, they should be added by date manually. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:03, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Meanwhile I checked the articles. Quite a few were not categorized by date yet. But now they are. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:51, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • That could be an alternative option when there are still quite a few subcategories left. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:58, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The discussion is not about the gender as such, but about the intersection with gender. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:47, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Male suicides

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:09, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-diffusing trivial intersection that does not aid navigation. Categories are not a place for collecting statistics on comparative gender. All the suicides are already by date, so this is just a second/third/fourth tag by sex. The few relevant subcategories are already heavily cross-categorized. The others (actors, comedians, writers) are already up for deletion.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle per nom, but add any remaining subcategories (probably only a few subcategories, most will have been deleted after earlier nominations) to Category:Suicides and Category:Death of men. Also, is it entirely certain that all suicides in this category have already been categorized by date? If not, they should be added by date manually. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:04, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Meanwhile I checked the articles. Quite a few were not categorized by date yet. But now they are. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:48, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • In contrast to the female sibling, it is unlikely that this will be necessary. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:11, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Eventually Delete/Containerize for Now per RD. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:18, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Containerize for sure. The violation of containerization rules in Wikipedia categorization has gotten extreme. John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:02, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per my comment about female suicides above. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:52, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The gender of these people is not a trivial detail. Dimadick (talk) 17:03, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The discussion is not about gender as such, but about intersection with gender. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:48, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.

Architecture and landmarks in Sri Lanka by district

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge all Timrollpickering (talk) 23:16, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging:
more Architecture categories
more Landmarks categories
Nominator's rationale: merge these are two almost empty category layers except they largely duplicate the tree of buildings and structures. Following this, I will also nominate the architecture and landmarks categories by province which suffer from the same problem as the ones by district. This is a follow-up on this earlier discussion. @William Allen Simpson and Justus Nussbaum: pinging contributors to earlier discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:53, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support — on second thought, would prefer "Buildings and structures" be upmerged to "Architecture" instead of the other way around. But that's not what was done in the previous nomination, so we should be consistent. Some structures aren't architectural.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 11:07, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge Per nom. This layer is not aiding navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:11, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Entertainers who committed suicide

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:27, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection. No notable
WP:DEFINING
link between the occupation and the manner of death. There may have been many years between the occupation and the suicide, making the link even weaker.
Note: Sources about the death of a person will often discuss both their occupation and their cause of death. This doesn't make this intersection any more notable than a combination with other aspects often discussed in such notices, such as their number of children. See previous:
  1. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 November 29#Category:Chefs who committed suicide
  2. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 12#Suicides by occupation
  3. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 24#Category:Musicians who committed suicide
William Allen Simpson (talk) 10:46, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's a non-diffusing category, so they should already be there. But I've nominated it anyway, because it doesn't serve any useful purpose.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 16:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I don't see this as trivial, and the sources cover it. Dimadick (talk) 01:54, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete All While each item might be worth categorizing by (and they are already all in more specific career/suicide cats) the intersection seems non-defining. - RevelationDirect (talk) 14:13, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete All because the intersection is non-defining. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:19, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete not inherently notable intersections, but if someone wants to (and can consistent with
    WP:SYNTH) write Suicide among entertainers or Suicide among Swedish male comedians (seriously, folks) and source them, no objection to including these as sourced lists in those articles. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:54, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply
    ]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.

Mayors of places in Indonesia

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge all Timrollpickering (talk) 23:18, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
more categories nominated
Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT, just one, two or three articles in each of these categories and they are not part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:24, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply
]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Maskilim

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus to delete. A proposal to rename as discussed by some editors could be made in a new nomination. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:03, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: listify and delete, not a defining characteristic, the term "Maskilim" is not even mentioned in some articles. A list can better explain in text and with references why these people are considered to be Maskilim. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Haskalah began around the early 1770s, Mendelssohn died in 1786; there is virtually no debate among scholars whether or not he was a Maskil. Again, insofar as there are are categories for members of other Enlightenment movements, I fail to see why the Jewish Enlightenment should be treated any differently.
    talk) 14:23, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep or rename to Category:People of the Haskalah movement or such like. The question of which people should be included is not one for CfD. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:38, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lean Toward Delete/Rename if Kept I clicked through quite a few of these articles and this category usually seemed subjective and not spelled out in most articles. Usually that's just a matter for some cleanup but it raises the question of whether we can objectively categorize most people by this movement at all. If kept, rename to Category:People of the Haskalah movement along the lines of PKI's suggestion. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:00, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It's a recognizable historical category that will group together articles in a helpful way for someone browsing the topic. And everything
    Kyuko said above. --Dan Carkner (talk) 16:31, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply
    ]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Aviti

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:26, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Violates
Avilich (talk) 02:58, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply
]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Films who won Saturn Award for Best Science Fiction Film

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename, or at least merge confirmed. A fresh nomination to focus solely on whether or not to keep Category:Best Science Fiction Film Saturn Award winners could be held, as not all participants gave views on that. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:55, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Standardization per Category:Best Picture Academy Award winners and Category:Best Film BAFTA Award winners‎. Films are not alive so "who" is not an appropriate way to reference them. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:01, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree to the renaming. Lieutenant commander Spock (talk) 5:19, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
  • The nominator (Muboshgu) was not the creator (Lieutenant commander Spock), who has agreed to the renaming above.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 12:36, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ooops, I misread the nominator. Thanks. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:42, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Fútbol Alcobendas Sport players

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:24, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category should be moved to

the club's change of name. MYS77 ✉ 00:40, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply
]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.

Gliese 682

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete, merging content to Category:Gliese and GJ objects. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:23, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The system isn't particularly notable, and the article for
Gliese 682 b is just a redirect, not a real article. Kepler-1229b talk
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.

Katagami, Aichi

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: (speedy) delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:00, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This city does not exist; seemingly created in error (perhaps mistaken for Category:Katagami, Akita, as also suggested by the categorization of Category:Katagami, Aichi within Category:Cities in Akita Prefecture), Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 00:16, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Books about the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:22, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT
This category groups 2 articles about books about the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging. Neither of the target categories for upmerge are very large and this category doesn't have much room for growth, at least with English language publications, and it's has been around since 2014. No objection to recreating later if I'm wrong and it ever gets up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:11, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Christmas Island support structures

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:20, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:OC
generally
I assumed this was a Buildings & Structures category but the only thing in it is Category:Courts of Christmas Island which is already well categorized. I didn't see any equivalent categories under Category:States and territories of Australia so, whatever the intent here, it's not currently aiding navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:11, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge, redundant and obscure category layer. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:19, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge -- unnecessary category layer. I do not think the island is that big; is it? Peterkingiron (talk) 19:41, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Related Nomination A broader nomination about Christmas Island was opened by another editor right here. Your input (pro/con/other) is also welcome there. - RevelationDirect (talk) 14:03, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a deletion review
). No further edits should be made to this section.
Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_December_31&oldid=1001274930"