Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2009 January 18

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18 January 2009

Jergen has just copyvio-blanked Homenetmen, in order to bolster his argument for removal of
Scouting in Syria. The Homenetmen article has been edited by dozens of users, there is no way the whole article is a copyviolation. Please review. If it was a new article by a single user, then it would be copyvio, this borders on POV. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply
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I am not attacking Jergen, he's a great editor and usually easy to work with. But twice reverting a new article to redirect without discussion, and then copyvio blanking another article used to bolster the discussion appear to violate
WP:POINT. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply
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I'm afraid that takes a back-seat to copyright concerns. :/ The history section and timeline seem to have been copied and pasted from http://www.homenetmen.net/. Within days of the addition of this text, you had corrected "December 16 of 1918" to the Wiki-standard "December 16, 1918" (here). homenetmen.net, which archives back considerably further than our publication, has the older text. It seems highly unlikely that all of the other text introduced by the creator was authored by him: note that text he introduced in April 2006 said, "The 7th Pan-Homenetmen Athletic Games will be held in Athens, Greece, from July 24 thru 31, 2005. Teams will compete in men’s and women’s basketball, volleyball, and swimming." It would certainly be an inexplicable authorial choice to write about a past event in the future tense unless he was pasting it from an older source. Unless the opening paragraph also proves to be a copyright infringement, the proper handling of this may be to remove or revise the history & timeline as necessary. For example, this is infringement: "On April 18, 1920, Homenetmen for the first time celebrates “Armenian Scouting Day” in Independent Armenia." It duplicates original, creative text. This is not, because it doesn't: "1924: Beirut, Lebanon; Fiks, Greece; Kognia, Greece; Lipasma, Greece; Tatar Bazarjek, Bulgaria; Stara Jakora, Bulgaria; Lyon, France; Marseille, France". --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:14, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Green tickY Since contributors to this article have not chosen to propose a revision in the temporary space, I have removed the duplicated sections. As noted above, some of the material was not infringement, but embedded as it was with material that did infringe, selective deletion seemed more disruptive to the article than simple removal. The infringement goes back almost to the beginning, but I have not deleted it from history, but simply left notice warning against restoration without verification of license at the talk page. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]