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Burnley F.C.
- Nominator(s): talk) 17:29, 28 May 2020 (UTC)]
This article is about Burnley Football Club, an English football team currently playing in the Premier League. I'm looking to get this promoted to FA, as it currently is a GA, and I think it meets the criteria of a FA now. It would be great to have a second team in claret and blue receiving this status!
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Image review
- Suggest scaling up the graph
- Featured articles such as talk) 16:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC)]
- Sorry, not talking about the graph data here, but rather the actual displayed size of the graph -
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can be used to make it appear larger. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)- Done. talk) 19:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)]
- Done.
- Sorry, not talking about the graph data here, but rather the actual displayed size of the graph -
- Featured articles such as
- File:Burnley_FC_1890.png: when/where was this first published, and if the author is unknown how do we know they died over 70 years ago?
- In the local newspaper (probably the Burnley Express) in 1890. They won the talk) 16:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC)]
- Is there any photographer credit in the source? If no, you may need to rely on a different tag for UK status. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- There is not, and also not in other similar photos I found. What tag do you suggest? talk) 19:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)]
- Done. Replaced the tag with "PD-UK-unknown". talk) 17:29, 1 June 2020 (UTC)]
- As below, the UK-unknown tag requires the image description to include an explanation of efforts made to try to identify author. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Done. talk) 13:16, 3 June 2020 (UTC)]
- Done.
- As below, the UK-unknown tag requires the image description to include an explanation of efforts made to try to identify author. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Done. Replaced the tag with "PD-UK-unknown".
- There is not, and also not in other similar photos I found. What tag do you suggest?
- Is there any photographer credit in the source? If no, you may need to rely on a different tag for UK status. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- In the local newspaper (probably the Burnley Express) in 1890. They won the
- File:The_King_George_V_presents_the_FA_Cup_1914.jpg: source link is dead, as per the UK tag the description needs to include research done to try to determine authorship, and when/where was this first published?
- Although the image is used by many websites on the web (including Liverpool F.C. and Burnley F.C.), the photographer is unknown. I assume the photo was published by multiple newspapers throughout the country the day after. It's frustrating to not find any information. What do you suggest? talk) 16:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC)]
- Start by replacing the dead link - if it's used elsewhere that should be fairly straightforward. Next, see if you can confirm your assumption, and check whether the publications include any photographer credit. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Replaced the dead link. Searched on the web and in books, but found no photo details or credit. talk) 19:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)]
- Done. talk) 21:28, 2 June 2020 (UTC)]
- What was the earliest publication found? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- April 1914 (found no specific day). talk) 13:16, 3 June 2020 (UTC)]
- Suggest specifying in the image description this earlier source. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:25, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- April 1914 (found no specific day).
- What was the earliest publication found? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Done.
- Replaced the dead link. Searched on the web and in books, but found no photo details or credit.
- Start by replacing the dead link - if it's used elsewhere that should be fairly straightforward. Next, see if you can confirm your assumption, and check whether the publications include any photographer credit. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Although the image is used by many websites on the web (including Liverpool F.C. and Burnley F.C.), the photographer is unknown. I assume the photo was published by multiple newspapers throughout the country the day after. It's frustrating to not find any information. What do you suggest?
- File:Burnley_F.C._1920-21.jpg: as above, UK tag requires description of research done on authorship. Same with File:Tommy_Boyle.JPG (which also has a deadlinked source), File:Jerry_Dawson.jpg
- Does the link need to be replaced?
- Yes please. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Done. talk) 19:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)]
- Done.
- Yes please. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Featured articles Arsenal F.C. and Liverpool F.C. both contain pictures (File:Arsenal 1888 squad photo.jpg and File:John Houlding.jpg, respectively) with similar infoboxes. What's so different about these pictures?
- All three pictures are property of the local newspapers, the names of the photographers/employees were not known, so what can I do? talk) 16:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC)]
- How do you know they are not known? Basically all we need here is a description on the image page of what steps you've taken to confirm that. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Used the Internet and books, but again no extra information. Boyle's picture was indeed taken during his spell at Barnsley, as it's their shirt he's wearing (Burnley's collar had a different colour than the shirt itself; this is a plain shirt). The original link is unfortunately dead, but Barnsley's main website also used the photo, and gave no credit or information. The 1920-21 and Dawson photos are both found in "The Clarets Chronicles", but no further information was given. talk) 19:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)]
- How would that description look like? talk) 19:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)]
- Done. talk) 21:28, 2 June 2020 (UTC)]
- Copy the description of your search efforts from here to there, to demonstrate that you've done reasonable due diligence in checking for author credit. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Done. talk) 13:16, 3 June 2020 (UTC)]
- Done.
- Copy the description of your search efforts from here to there, to demonstrate that you've done reasonable due diligence in checking for author credit. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Done.
- Used the Internet and books, but again no extra information. Boyle's picture was indeed taken during his spell at Barnsley, as it's their shirt he's wearing (Burnley's collar had a different colour than the shirt itself; this is a plain shirt). The original link is unfortunately dead, but Barnsley's main website also used the photo, and gave no credit or information. The 1920-21 and Dawson photos are both found in "The Clarets Chronicles", but no further information was given.
- How do you know they are not known? Basically all we need here is a description on the image page of what steps you've taken to confirm that. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Does the link need to be replaced?
- File:Burnley_FC_League_Performance.svg: what are the sources for this data? Nikkimaria (talk) 23:02, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- EclecticArkie gets the league placings from a website called "Football Club History Database", a frequently cited site on English and Welsh football club pages, as it covers all information on league placings and cup runs.
- Does it need to be included in the infobox of the graph? talk) 16:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC)]
- In the image description. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Done. talk) 19:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)]
- Done.
- In the image description. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi
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- Hi talk) 21:28, 2 June 2020 (UTC)]
- Hi
Coord note
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Peer Review to see if you can get some more commentary before another nom. Alternatively (or in addition) you'd be eligible to give the FAC mentoring scheme a go. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:31, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
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- Closing note: This WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 06:32, 14 June 2020 (UTC)]
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