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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:Matthewedwards 02:46, 24 December 2008 [1].

List of Fullmetal Alchemist episodes

previous FLC 1, FLC 2

This article has been nominated because I have attempted to restore it as far as possible to when it was orignally listed as FA. I have updated the article consistantly, added new images and re-written sections to keep unecessary detail out as far as possible. I know it has reached FA status owing to the way the article looks as a whole; I believe it matches the criteria for FA-List Class in it's encyclopaedic form. サラは、私を、私の青覚えている。 Talk Contribs 23:20, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy fail – summaries are far less than adequate (short, poor prose, not comprehensive at all). I remember thinking about working on this list a few months ago (as I watched the series a while ago too), but writing 51 decent episode summaries was a bit daunting at the time. I highly doubt you can crank out 51 good episode summaries in the scope of this FLC. Aside from that, I detest {{List of Anime Episodes TV}} for the atrocious formatting, we don't autoformat dates anymore, lists shouldn't start with "This is...", the film doesn't deserve a mention anywhere here since it's not an episode, and the OVAs have no release dates. A host of problems that you can't solve in the scope of this FLC. Withdraw it. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 23:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy fail per Sephiroth BCR and one of the list primary editors disagreeing with nomination before it was even made. List has way too many issues right now. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 00:04, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quick-fail per above (note that nominator's support is assumed and the FLC directors probably will not take the extra support into consideration). Also, please convert the ISO dates and expand the summaries before relisting. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:27, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy fail per Sephiroth, Collectonian, and Dabomb. Also, featured list standards increase continuously. Simply reverting to a revision that was featured and filling in missing episodes isn't gonna do the trick. The list as it is now has no chance of promotion. -- Goodraise (talk) 00:43, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fail The standards for a featured list of episodes has evolved to include complete plot summaries for episodes. One sentence cannot summaries the entire plot of an episode. In fact, it was because of the too short episode summaries that was the primary reason the list to be demoted in the first place. Also the table format is far too cluttered compared to the table format of {{Japanese episode list}}. The funny thing is, the version before the nominator reverted the list was far closer to featured list standards then the version he "restored" and re-nominated. My suggestion would be to revert to this version and continue to work from there. --Farix (Talk) 00:50, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I've restored use of {{Japanese episode list}} as well as readded the English airdates which were improperly removed. However, the episode summaries are still too short and incomplete for this list to be promoted. --Farix (Talk) 02:24, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Looking over the article again, one other thing I notice missing is the lack of information about the series director, much less who directed and wrote the individual episodes. This information should be easily found since the series has been released in English. Also, the OP and ED songs and artist who performed them is missing from the article's lead along with the companies that produced the series. In fact, much of the information in Fullmetal Alchemist#Anime should also be mentioned in the list. --Farix (Talk) 13:14, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy fail/Recommend withdrawal per Sephiroth BCR. The FLC listing is premature, and the list of issues are too numerous to quickly be fixed, especially the lack of proper episode summaries. Recommend reverting to this version (per Farix) and continuing work from there. G.A.Stalk 10:25, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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