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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 17:55, 24 April 2011 [1].

List of Los Angeles Clippers seasons

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Nominator(s): Cheetah (talk) 08:01, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because...I worked on it these past two days and now I believe it's ready to be nominated. I welcome any comments/criticism/questions! Thank you! Cheetah (talk) 08:01, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Courcelles 08:12, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
*First thing that catches my eye (cause I know how much of a pain it could be) is... what's sourcing the awards column? Courcelles 08:18, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref #2, I put it right next to the word "Awards" in the table heading.--Cheetah (talk) 08:47, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    You really expect folks to look through a 21 page PDF? Page numbers are essential... (Not to mention, third party sources would be nice.) Courcelles 08:59, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    The page numbers are there... "Los Angeles Clippers Records" (PDF). NBA.com. NBA Media Ventures, LLC. p. 79 (2 of 21). http://www.nba.com/clippers/media/0910mediaguide_recordbook.pdf This isn't an opinion of the Clippers, so we can use NBA's site.--Cheetah (talk) 09:06, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:40, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for a few technical issues...
  • Depending on resolution, you can expand that lead image a bit according to the MOS.
  • "the Buffalo Braves." not keen on that odd link to Buffalo. Is there no article specifically for Buffalo Braves? In any case, it looks odd.
  • No need to relink NBA.
  • "The Buffalo Braves moved to San Diego".. could just say "The Braves ..."
  • Some seasons in the lead are linked, some aren't, why?
  • "In their first game, the Braves beat the Cleveland Cavaliers 107-92" en-dash. Where? When? Anything more to add?
  • "In the 1972 NBA Draft, the Braves selected Bob McAdoo, who later won such awards as Rookie of the Year and Most Valuable Player. During McAdoo's years, the Braves reached for the post-season three times." references?
  • "playoffs twice(1975–76..." space needed.
  • "They also had seven seasons with the winning precentage of .500 or better. " -> "with a winning percentage" and what does that mean to a non-expert?
  • "their 40 year history." -> "40-year history".
  • "Playoff Berth " is Berth really a proper noun?
  • Relink everything linkable in the table because it's sortable.
  • "Lost First Round to Utah Jazz, 3-2[6]" - en-dash needed for the scoreline. There are several of these.
  • Look at the capitalisation of the text in the "All-time records" section, and reference it.
  • While not against the MOS, why are your refs dated in English format while your main article has dates in US format?
  • Ref titles need to comply with
    WP:DASH
    as well.

The Rambling Man (talk) 19:34, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed all dash issues—Chris!c/t 20:02, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks TRM for your comments. They really showed that I forgot a lot in the last 12 months of inactivity. The "cite" button in the editor gave me the English format and I thought it was a new rule, so did not bother to change it. Thanks Chris for helping out.--Cheetah (talk) 05:41, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 00:03, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • Could link Western Conference in the second sentence.
  • "It was one of three franchises that joined the NBA in the 1970–71 season." "It was" should be "They were" in this context.
  • "During McAdoo's years". Does this mean with the team? If so, say it.
  • Remove "for" from "the Braves reached for the post-season three times."
  • "They also had seven seasons with the winning precentage of .500 or better." Typo with "precentage", and "the" would be better as "a".
  • Why is League capitalized in the last sentence of the lead?
  • I find it curious that there is a full allotment of articles on the team's individual seasons, and yet the list is linking to generic league season articles. If articles on the team are avaliable, why not use them?
  • In reference 1, should the first and third words of the title be capitalized?
  • Reference 11 appears to have a formatting error. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:15, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks for the helpful comments. I've done most of them. Please, take a second look.--Cheetah (talk) 02:13, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – Meets FL standards. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 00:03, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Looks like a very strong piece, which is surprising for a low importance article. Great job! Soxrock24 (talk) 02:47, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I made my usual minor fixes, but this list meets the criteria. A couple comments that aren't dealbreakers:
  • Consider removing the font size parameter from key; it would enhance accessibility slightly and there is no aesthetic disadvantage (IMO)
  • The lead seems a little short. Of course, the Clippers are one of the NBA's less-successful teams, which means they are light on achievements, but then again, perhaps that might be worth discussing in a couple sentences (if you can find stuff in reliable sources)? Dabomb87 (talk) 22:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks! I removed the font-size limitation. I added a couple of sentences implying that the Clippers are the least successful team in sports history. You're more than welcome to continue to do your copyedits.--Cheetah (talk) 01:51, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support A good model for how to structure these lists for limited existence/limited success teams that are harder to expound on. I would add a couple things namely (1) Their overall postseason record to the 2nd lead paragraph, (2) Their overall record at the bottom of the last paragraph, and (3) One more image if you can find one. Maybe Elton Brand with a caption about winning the Sportsmanship award in their last playoff season? Staxringold talkcontribs 19:50, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks! I added the Braves' record to the 2nd paragraph because that paragraph talks about the Braves. Overall record is added, as well. I didn't want to add Brand because I don't have a free pic of him in a Clipper uniform. I added Cassell instead. Let me know what you think.--Cheetah (talk) 03:48, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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