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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of SaGa video games

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Nominator(s): ProtoDrake (talk) 13:57, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because... this currently stands as the only Square Enix-related list article not to be featured. I created this article initially, and PresN has done further edits and tidying. While I originally planned this to include all media, that will likely be a different list at another time if that ever materialises due to extensive sourcing difficulties for novelizations, mangas, guides, ect.. I feel this article is relatively close to FL status, and it's best not to let it linger too long. ProtoDrake (talk) 13:57, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Alexandra

  • I would suggest changing The official website counts... to "Square Enix counts...", because I don't see why it matters that they said it through the series' website... but I also don't really know why this is important in the first place unless RSs are making observations about various ways of counting the games.
  • Its first game premiered in Japan in 1989, and SaGa games have subsequently been localized for markets in North America and Europe across multiple video game consoles since its debut on the Game Boy. I don't know if I'm reading this incorrectly, but it seems to be repeating that the series began on the Game Boy in 1989 twice?
  • Almost every entry is a standalone title with its own world and gameplay mechanics. could be written more smoothly as something like "Most of the games have their own separate settings and game mechanics"
  • Almost every title has been developed with the input or leadership of series creator Akitoshi Kawazu. - I'd suggest rewriting this in active voice, ie "Series creator Akitoshi Kawazu led or advised the development of most of the games"
  • SaGa games were released solely for home and handheld consoles since the first release in 1989 through Unlimited Saga in 2002, after which development of new titles ceased and only ports and remakes of existing games for consoles, computers, and mobile phones were produced for a decade. - this feels pretty verbose, and it's repeating that the series began in 1989 for the third time. I would suggest something like "New games in the series were released for home and handheld consoles until Unlimited Saga in 2002, after which Square Enix only developed ports and remakes of already released SaGa games for a decade."
  • In 2012 Emperors SaGa, the first of four mobile or web browser games, was released, with the latest, Imperial SaGa Eclipse, produced in 2019, and a single additional release for consoles and computers was SaGa: Scarlet Grace in 2016. also feels much more verbose and convoluted than it needs to be.
  • One collection release of SaGa games has been published, the 2020 Collection of SaGa: Final Fantasy Legend for the Nintendo Switch, containing ports of the original three Final Fantasy Legend games. as does this. Also keep in mind that you have not mentioned "Final Fantasy Legend" until this point and that it feels out of nowhere to bring up Final Fantasy, something not explained until the next paragraph.
  • Since its debut on Game Boy, the SaGa series has released on over twenty different home and portable consoles, in addition to web browsers and mobile devices.[5] Many titles have been re-released on later platforms, either as a remake or an enhanced port. - this is mostly just repetition of information from the previous two paragraphs, right? You already bring up that Square Enix spent a decade re-releasing old games, and we already know that the series began on Game Boy.
  • Assuming "titles" just means games and not films, books, etc, I think "games" is communicating that more clearly
  • You have an extra parenthesis in 2020 — Nintendo Switch (Collection of SaGa)[8])
  • Was it actually released in Japan as Warrior in the Tower of the Demon World ~ Sa·Ga, or is this just a translation of the Japanese title? Same for the English-Japanese titles of later games
  • 2019 — Web Browser[5] - this is not a name, so change to "Web browser"
  • In your references, you have Square Enix and Bandai Games presented as works rather than as publishers, and 1UP.com and (sometimes) RPGamer and Siliconera as publishers rather than as works
  • USgamer is written with a lowercase G
  • The reference titled "魔界塔士 サ・ガ (About)" has a script error
  • The reference titled "Romancing SaGa 2 for PS4, Xbox One, Switch, PS Vita, and PC launches December 15 - Gematsu" should have the name of the website removed from the title, and presented as the name of the work instead

Please ping me when you have responded to the above and I will take another look!--AlexandraIDV 15:49, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexandra IDV: I hope I've addressed everything above, plus a few extra things such as citation consistency. --ProtoDrake (talk) 21:29, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I did some additional edits to the citations, but I think it looks good now.--AlexandraIDV 09:49, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "SaGa games have subsequently [....] since its debut" - there seems to be a bit of a plural/singular conflict there. Maybe change the second bit to "since the series debuted"
  • Actually I think that's all I've got - great work!! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:05, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Director comment – We still need a source review here. My knowledge of which sites are reliable for RPGs is not the best, and it looks like PresN had some involvement with preparing the list, so someone else will have to do this one. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:36, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Source review – Just had a look over of the sources. There were some missing publishers, a dead link and a missing archive, but I went ahead and took care of those. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 17:30, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Giants2008: :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:21, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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