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List of international goals scored by Alfredo Di Stéfano

Featured list candidates/List of international goals scored by Alfredo Di Stéfano/archive1

Nominator(s): Harrias ^talk 14:28, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alfredo Di Stéfano was one of the best footballers of all-time, and something of a rarity for playing for two international teams. Although he was highly successful at domestic level in Argentina, Colombia and Spain, he never quite reached the same peaks internationally. He score six goals in six games to help Argentina win the 1947 South American Championship, but that was the sum total of his international success. He never played in a World Cup or European Championship, and didn't really see eye-to-eye with his national team coach either. This list is modelled on those that have gone before, although I've had to improvise for how to include his two playing nations. I opted for one table including all his goals, rather than splitting it into two tables, but let me know what you think. As always, all input welcome. Harrias ^talk 14:28, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Link friendly to
Exhibition match
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- Linked in the prose, not sure if it is needed on every occasion in the table too, what do you reckon? Harrias ^talk 15:57, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Looking at similar lists, Zlatan Ibrahimovic for example, these tend to link all uses in the table. I don't think I'd argue for or against either way really, unless someone points out a compelling reason. Kosack (talk) 17:56, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Linked it throughout the table for consistency. Harrias ^talk 18:55, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Brian Glanville suggested that was unable to dictate play", something missing from here.
- Added the missing word. Harrias ^talk 15:57, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Two very minor points I noticed on a quick run through. Kosack (talk) 15:36, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers Kosack. Query above. Harrias ^talk 15:57, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to support following the issues addressed her and in Chris' comments. Kosack (talk) 08:17, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment

The opening sentence is incorrect, as he actually played for three national teams - he also played for Colombia. He didn't score any goals for Colombia, but it probably still needs to be mentioned...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:43, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree, ChrisTheDude. The opening sentence is 100% correct: it omits Colombia because the matches he played for them were unsanctioned. The lead makes passing reference to it for completeness, but it is not significant enough to be included in the opening sentence. Harrias ^talk 15:57, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Fair enough. I didn't realise that his matches for Colombia are not recognised as official internationals -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:06, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

More comments

"He was twice named the Ballon d'Or winner" - I think "He was twice awarded the Ballon d'Or" would work better personally
- Agreed, changed. Harrias ^talk 16:54, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note a "The South American Championship was the predecessor to the Copa América." seems odd placed after "Di Stéfano made his international debut for Argentina in December 1947" given that the sentence makes no mention of the South American Championship
- Oops, moved things around, and forgot to move the footnote. Sorted now. Harrias ^talk 16:54, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Think that's it from me -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:22, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks as always ChrisTheDude. Harrias ^talk 16:54, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:46, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from 13:35, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Comments

References 8 and 9 aren't centered.
- @HAL333: No, all the references are left-aligned. References 8 and 9 look slightly different because they are single digit, that's all. Harrias ^talk 06:51, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work. ~ HAL333 19:24, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- - Okay, that makes sense. ~ HAL333 13:35, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support ~ HAL333 13:35, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - Pass

Added one publisher link – reliability is good and formatting is consistent. Pass for source review Aza24 (talk) 05:33, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TRM

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Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 16:56, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

*Could link Association football positions to "set positions".

- Done. Harrias ^talk 10:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
" He scored six goals, including..." too many run-on clauses for me here.
- Split and rephrased slightly. Harrias ^talk 10:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"were not recognised" were not, or are not?
- Are not: changed. Harrias ^talk 10:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Did he score for Colombia?
- No, but because these weren't official matches, it is difficult to find an RS that deals with them at all. Harrias ^talk 10:11, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"He moved to Real Madrid in 1953" first mention of a domestic team, seems anomalous.
- It is where he is most famous for playing, I don't think it is undue. Harrias ^talk 10:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Santiago Bernabéu " is a disambiguation link.
- Solved. Harrias ^talk 10:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Of Di Stéfano's 37 goals" table says 29. And I think this information (along with apps) should appear much earlier in the lead.
- Oops, fixed the 37 to 29. I think the placement of this summary is appropriate, but I have added , ..and scored 29 international goals during that time." to the first sentence, as you are right that his goal tally needs greater prominence. How is that? Harrias ^talk 10:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sevilla is Seville in English.
- Quite, changed. Harrias ^talk 10:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Brussels is linked but Santiago isn't?
- Unlinked Brussels, missed that one. Harrias ^talk 10:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Blank cell for score against Wales.
- How odd, added. Harrias ^talk 10:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Glanville can be linked in the refs using authorlink.
- Indeed, linked. Harrias ^talk 10:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's it for a first pass. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 09:57, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: How is it now? Harrias ^talk 10:11, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting. --Pres N 15:03, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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