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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:Matthewedwards 20:56, 30 September 2008 [1].

List of municipalities of Sweden (alt. Municipalities of Sweden)

I made a new list over the Swedish municipalities. I feel the list illustrate the municialities in a good way and feel it meet the FLC criteria. Røed (talk · no) 16:16, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
  • "Sweden municipal borders (click image to enlarge)" – remove the "(click image to enlarge)"; think about how useful this would be if the page was printed, for example
  • remove the bold from the link "Municipalities of Sweden" per
    WP:BOLDTITLE
  • should "to the 21" be "in the 21"?
  • "of a uniform type" – what's that supposed to mean?
  • add references to the statements made in the lead

talk) 18:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply
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 Done Think I have clearified most of them now, if there is any more in the lead that need citations. make a note on them, and I will find sources. Røed (talk · no) 20:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - sources need to state that they are in Swedish. Can't evaluate the sources because they are in Swedish. Can't check links because the link checker tool is down today. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:19, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All the links are working, and I changed some of the links to go straight to the spreadsheet(s), except the first one, it's only the numbers that are interesting anyway. Røed (talk · no) 20:07, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - There need to be units for the Area and Density. Kaldari (talk) 19:02, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
 Done (km2) Røed (talk · no) 20:07, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have corrected some spelling mistakes in the lead but I have further comments.

  • Why is the list primarily sorted on municipality number rather than name? There are gaps in the numbering which could imply that there are entries missing (I presume that the reason for the gaps is municipality mergers). A link to something that explains the numbers would also be useful.
  • I am not convinced by the utility of the very small maps. For a start each map is of a county which most people outside Sweden will not recognise. What is more it is very difficuly to see the highlighted municipality except for some of the larger ones. You also need to bear in mind that they add to the load time of the page.
  • For me (on IE6) the column width of the Coat of Arms column at the top doesn't line up with the width for the arms themselves. Additionally the population value almost overlaps the shield.

Boissière (talk) 22:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Code: The numbers/code is the statistical way of SCB to devide between the municipalities, and I used the same way (also get sorted by counties and there are a mixed reasons for why not all numbers are used (in addition to mergers). :*I have now linked to a new article about the topic, but can also make a short sentence about it in the introduction.
  • Maps/Counties: I have now put maps over the counties on the right side, I can put them in each line too, but this will increase loading time. If someone could find a way to get them roughly the same place as the coounties in the table it would be great (I did one try, but it messed up the sorting). I feel the maps are useful, even some of them becomes small (could increase size some too). There is loadingtime, but I feel it will be difficult to reduce this without reducing the quality of the list.
  • IE6: I don't have IE6 on any of the computers I got available, so it's difficult for me to fix this. if you can fix or look on it, it would be great. But, there is little doubt that this table is not ideal for the smallest screens. Røed (talk · no) 20:52, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Should be fixed now. Røed (talk · no) 21:54, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I put sq. miles into the table as well after looking on similar nominations of municipalities/counties, but would like to hear some more comments. Røed (talk · no) 05:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

  • Is it "municipalities" or "Municipalities"?
  • "The current 290 municipalities form sub-divisions divided into 21 counties " - this needs a little work, particularly "sub-divisions divided" which reads poorly.
  • Don't link individual years like 1971.
  • " now a uniform type" - what does this actually mean?
  • The lead needs expanding really. What's there now should only form one para and we need at least another big para - talk about the biggest, smallest, history, other notable municipalities.
  • "by municipality code" - not really. It's a sortable table so it could be listed by any of the col headings.
  • "(2008-12-31)" - isn't that the future? And we don't like ISO dates when human-readable versions could be used?
  • Area doesn't sort correctly.
  • Some coats of arms without images.
  • Some English references wouldn't go amiss - this is, after all, English Wikipedia.

The Rambling Man (talk) 16:52, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Fixed most of the issues you are pointing too, I will work on the lead tomorrow, but found it difficult to balance between Municipalities of Sweden and the list, since I find the main article to be to long to have just one. So I focused the lead on the parameters in the table (counties, area, population). I can and will expand the lead, but want tips on how to balance the article (or if they are possible to merge)
  • There are some copyright issues regarding the last municipalities on commons, and I'm not familiar enough on fair use to upload them here. (13 municipalities, 4,4% of total)
  • I found a source in the database of Statistics Sweden with the same parameters (except the first history reference) in English, I merged them to one citation. Røed (talk · no) 04:06, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I merged the article with Municipalities of Sweden, but let both be there for now so people can give comments on what they prefer. If the large version is keept it obviusly need some more proof reading. The introduction/history naturally got longer too. Røed (talk · no) 22:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question Are you sure it is municipalities? To me it seems to be communes!
    Nergaal (talk) 07:05, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply
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In Swedish it's kommmun, however in English the term municipalities are used (see references in article and Swedish Association of Local Authorities and Regions). Røed (talk · no) 22:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • We don't use a word to translate a foreign word into English just because it looks/sounds alike. --Aqwis (talk – contributions) 22:45, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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