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The list was promoted by Giants2008 20:09, 14 June 2015 [1].

National Film Award for Best Supporting Actor

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Nominator(s): FrankBoy CHITCHAT 13:19, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
 Participation Guide
Support (4)
Krimuk90, Vensatry, Skr15081997, Birdienest81
Comments/No vote yet (1)
The Rambling Man
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The National Film Award for Best Supporting Actor was nominated for the FLC; however, the list failed because of not having enough comments and supports. I am looking forward to comments on how to improve it. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 13:19, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from —Vensatry (ping)
;Comments from —Vensatry (ping)
  • ""A national panel annually appointed by the government selects the actor ... " Who appoints the panel, the government itself or through DFF?
  • The following sentence is unsourced
  • "The Directorate of Film Festivals instituted the "Best Supporting Actor" category in 1984" We are not sure when the winners were declared, but I'm sure it wouldn't be 1984.
    • I did not tell you to do away with this fact. I wanted the year actually. —Vensatry (ping) 10:57, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yes, you didn't, however, Krimuk did. Scroll down and read the comment no#2 by him.
  • "The first recipient was Victor Banerjee, who was honoured at the 32nd National Film Awards (1984)" Same as above
  • "As of the 2013 awards, three actors—Nana Patekar, Pankaj Kapur, and Atul Kulkarni—have each been honoured twice" As of the 2013 awards, three actors—Nana Patekar, Pankaj Kapur, and Atul Kulkarni—have been honoured twice
  • Link 54th National Film Awards in the lead
  • "At the 42nd National Film Awards, Ashish Vidyarthi and Nagesh tied for their" Something is missing here
  • You have mentioned years in brackets, alongside films. What does it indicate, the year of theatrical release or the year in which it was sent to the DFF?
  • The last five lines of the lead are unsourced. I know that they are verifiable in the table, but we need some sources for the prose part.
  • In LRM, did Dilip Prabhavalkar actually play Mahatma Gandhi?
  • Infobox needs to be updated.
  • Barring Atul Kulkarni, why is that we have the pictures of Arjun Rampal and Saurabh Shukla in the article? Although it has got nothing to do with the criteria, I'd like to know on what basis you've chosen this.
  • Link Koimoi in refs.
  • Is ref #33 a press release?
  • In these type of lists, it's enough if we just mention the names of the people in alt text per
    WP:ALT
    .

—Vensatry (ping) 11:29, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Vensatry: I am done with resolving your queries. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 14:09, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Krimuk90
  • You mention that the DFF has been set up by an Indian ministry, yet you in the very sentence you refer to the organisation as " the Indian government's DFF ". Redundant.
  • In the first paragraph you mention that the award is presented by the DFF, yet you repeat the information at the beginning of in the second paragraph :"The Directorate of Film Festivals instituted the "Best Supporting Actor" category"
  • "The award ceremony is held in New Delhi, India, where the award is presented by the President of India" ==> "The award is presented by the President of India at a ceremony held in New Delhi"
  • Prose is quite repetitive in the third paragraph. I spot four sentences beginning with "XXX won..."
  • In note d, do you mean unnamed or unknown?
  • Why is the location information only present in ref no. 2? --
    Krimuk|90 (talk) 09:58, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Thank you @
    Krimuk90: for the comments. I have performed the edit, have tweaked for a better prose, and have added the location information to the sources wherever available. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 12:07, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply
    ]
I would remove the location information for the two refs to maintain consistency. Other than that, this has my support. Well done. --
Krimuk|90 (talk) 07:08, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply
]
Removed. Thank you for the support. --FrankBoy CHITCHAT 09:17, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much. --FrankBoy CHITCHAT 09:46, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Although I would suggest to remove the red link for Nanba Nanba until you create the article.
--Birdienest81 (talk) 17:54, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No such plans, therefore removed. And, tks. (: -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 18:20, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There are absolutely no problems with red links in FLs. —Vensatry (ping) 18:47, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 11:44, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Where is the "official name" of the award referenced?
    • @The Rambling Man: Each award is officially known as by its prize, which is Rajat Kamal for this one. All of them are cited in all of the references under the "Ref." column.
      • Sorry for being obtuse, I looked at the first ref and last ref and couldn't see this "official name". Incidentally, the first ref (and possibly others) in the table should be tagged with the language in which they are written as they are non-English... The Rambling Man (talk) 10:11, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        • @The Rambling Man: Please check the second win. That's available there. As for the language, they are not particularly written in Hindi, but also with some inclusion of English (not all, there are some which are written/published entirely in Hindi). I haven't tagged them, yet I have added an FN. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 10:40, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "annually appointed" switch round "appointed annually"
  • Why is "Cinema" capitalised in the infobox?
  • You have Paroma yet our article refers to it as Parama.
  • "Tamil-Hindi" or "Tamil / Hindi", be consistent.

Otherwise a good piece of work. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:18, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments TRM. I have resolved all except the first one. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 09:06, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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