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Stanley Kubrick filmography

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Nominator(s): ~ HAL333 16:30, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a list of Stanley Kubrick's films. He is widely regarded as one of the greatest directors. ~ HAL333 16:30, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Alexandra

• The second lead paragraph has an issue with repetitive "He directed A. Then he directed B. Then he directed C. Then he directed D." type of writing, especially in the beginning where we list off his documentaries and first feature film one by one.
• While the unfinished film may have been named by Kubrick after Pinocchio, linking the article on the character here gives one the impression that the link will take one to an article about the unfinished film - especially as it is italicized like a title. I would suggest unlinking it.
• The wording of the annotation Also editor, director of special effects, and breathing sounds read literally means that Kubrick was the breathing sounds rather than that he made them
• Looks good otherwise. Please ping me when you have addressed the above and I will take another look.--Alexandra^IDV 10:34, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandra IDV I've worked on the prose. ~ HAL333 00:40, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support on prose, although I am unsure re: the concerns over criterion 3c that RunningTiger123 brought up.--Alexandra^IDV 14:35, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Additionally support on 3c with the addition of the reception list--Alexandra^IDV 14:19, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

The only thing I can add to the above is that the prose is a bit choppy in places, with short sentences which could be joined together, e.g. "His final film was the erotic thriller Eyes Wide Shut starring Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. The film was released posthumously in 1999" - that seven-word sentence could easily be joined to the previous one -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:22, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandra IDV, ChrisTheDude I have done some work addressing the 3c issues. ~ HAL333 21:35, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support – With the addition of a reception section, this page now has enough information to stand on its own, in my opinion. RunningTiger123 (talk) 20:49, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:01, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Dank

• Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly
  AGF
  on sourcing.
• My first thought when I started reading was that it would be really difficult to write a good lead for a Stanley Kubrick list ... he went in so many different directions in his career. But you did it, and made it hang together ... well done.
• I don't have a preference, but "Dr. Strangelove" (as a film title, not a person) is normally alphabetized under D rather than S (and this is where you put it in the second table, but not in the first). In the second table, A Clockwork Orange should be filed under C, not A. Also, don't alphabetize these under "The": The Killing, The Seafarers, The Shining. Otherwise, the coding in the table seems fine.

Addressed. ~ HAL333 19:15, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• FLC criteria
  :
• 1. The prose is fine. I've done a little copyediting; feel free to revert or discuss.
• 2. The lead meets
  WP:LEAD
  and defines the inclusion criteria.
• 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
• 3b. The article is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the
  UPSD
  tool isn't indicating any problems (but this isn't a source review).
• 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
• 4. It is navigable.
• 5. It meets style requirements. You make good use of images (but that's about all I'm qualified to say).
• 6. It is stable.
• Support, since this is close enough to the finish line. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 18:54, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

• General: I think the formal awards he received for his work are more important than the critical reception from Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic, so I'd expect to see all those nominations and awards listed in a table here. Ok, it's listed as a "See also". Perhaps put {{main}} at the top of the section instead?
• "13 feature films and three" comparable figures should be all words or all numbers.
• "It was Kubrick's last film that he did not also write" the table seems to imply he was a writer on Lolita but just not credited.
• "2001 garnered ..." we're encouraged to avoid starting sentences with a numeral...
• You mention Vladimir Nabokov but not Anthony Burgess?

Good point. ~ HAL333 18:00, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• The lead talks about critics but doesn't seem to relate to Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic, I mean for example FMJ which is pretty iconic, and that's related in the second table but not mentioned at all in the lead.
• Check references for those which require subscriptions (e.g. the NYT) which need url-access=subscription adding to the cite template.
• Ref 5 -> "The" Independent.
• Ref 54, The Guardian is a work.

Not sure what's happening. It's a work in the code, but isn't italicized. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ~ HAL333 04:25, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There was an errant apostrophe in the title, I fixed it. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:21, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Why is "British filmographies" a category?

From my understanding, some of the editors at Stanley Kubrick insist that he is British and the category was an addition done years back. Although born American, Kubrick moved to a country estate in the UK, where he made the rest of his films. I'm largely indifferent to the issue, but I'm fine removing it if you find it inappropriate. ~ HAL333 04:08, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's just that there's a category here that isn't reflected or mentioned in the article at all. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:21, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Removed. ~ HAL333 17:57, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's all I have. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:09, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the comments. ~ HAL333 18:05, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source review – Pass

Will do soon. Aza24 (talk) 03:23, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting

• Shouldn't it be |url-access=registration for the NYT?
  • it's missing for ref 50 as well
• ref 56 doesn't have Ebert listed as the author link the others

Reliability

• no doubts here, all reputable news sources

Verifiability

• the link for ref 43 seems to be broken Aza24 (talk) 03:40, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for the source review, Aza. ~ HAL333 22:16, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 02:32, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support: Most of my other concerns were raised up by SNUGGUMS. Well done.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 08:41, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You now have my support following sufficient changes. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 01:22, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quick drive-by comments from Sdkb

• Two quick comments on the external links section: I think it's just "Rotten Tomatoes", not "the Rotten Tomatoes".

Done. ~ HAL333 15:37, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• It'd be nice to have some indication of who designed the kubrick.life site, rather than just having a bare link.

It seems to have been created by no one of note. I added "educational site" as I figure the names wouldn't have been of much help. ~ HAL333 15:37, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

{{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 01:06, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting. --PresN 19:43, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Closing note: This
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