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Wales national football team results (1980–1999)

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Nominator(s): Kosack (talk) 09:16, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Next up on the ongoing Wales results series is the 80s and 90s. We're approaching the end now and this one follows the same formula as the previous lists which have all achieved promotion. Once again, thanks to HawkAussie for their assistance in converting the table. I look forward to any comments. Kosack (talk) 09:16, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
  • "a late goal for Yugoslavia in their final match against Bulgaria saw them finish second in their group" - very confusing here as to who "they" are/were. Any way to rephrase?
  • "coupled with their opponents subsequent victories" - missing apostrophe
  • In match 417, Mark Bowen (footballer) is inexplicably piped as "Mark Brown"
  • Note a is not a complete sentence so should not have a full stop
  • Almost all (possibly even all) of the articles in the extensive "see also" list are linked in the table, so there's really no need to also have them under "see also" (which is intended only for articles which are tangentially linked to a subject but not directly mentioned in its article)
  • That's all I got - great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:52, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @ChrisTheDude: Thanks for taking a look as always Chris, I've amended the points above. Let me know what you think. Kosack (talk) 06:06, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:14, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Our article on the BH Championship also cites "hooliganism" among the reasons the competition was axed.
  • "winning the tournament ... win the competition" bit repetitive.
  • "played due to players refusing to travel following" -> "played after players refused to travel following" to avoid the slightly jarring -ing -ing?
  • "For the third consecutive tournament, Wales narrowly failed to qualify for" maybe "Wales narrowly failed to qualify for their third consecutive tournament.."
  • "they won 47.." don't you normally say how many they drew and lost as well?
  • Perhaps could include biggest wins and defeats and any streaks in the lead as well?
  • "(o.g)" missing a .
  • "Statistics" refs I would normally order alphabetically.

Otherwise all good. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:04, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from MWright96

  • "Wales came within one match of winning the tournament in the 1980–81 season, needing only to beat Northern Ireland in their final game but the match " - repetition of "match"
  • "In the latter, a late goal for Yugoslavia in their final match against Bulgaria saw them overtake Wales to win the qualifying group." - a wikilink can be added to the text in bold and directed to UEFA Euro 1984 qualifying
  • "A defeat in their last qualifying match against Germany, coupled with their opponents' subsequent victories in their last matches," - similar point to the first"
  • "led to Germany winning the group and the resulting qualification place for the 1992 European Championships." - similar query but a direct wikilink to UEFA Euro 1992 qualifying
  • The publication date of Reference 8 "Jock Stein: Triumph and tragedy in Cardiff" is incorrect and should be 10 September 2020
  • Consider wikilink the works and publications of the references where possible

Those are all the things that stood out in my read through. Nice job! MWright96 (talk) 08:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • "Wales came within one match of winning the tournament in the 1980–81 season, needing only to beat Northern Ireland the final game was never played after players refused to travel following an escalation of The Troubles in Ireland." I'd split this sentence up then you can avoid the awkward use of needing in the middle.
  • "The last tournament was held in the 1983–84 season and was won by Northern Ireland..." -> The last tournament was held in the 1983–84 season, which Northern Ireland won
    No, they didn't win the season, they won the tournament... The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:27, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmm, I'm still not keen on the current structure. Maybe "Northern Ireland won the last tournament, held in the 1983–84 season, on goal difference... NapHit (talk) 11:04, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Wales narrowly failed to qualify for the third consecutive tournament in the 1986 FIFA World Cup..." -> Wales narrowly failed to qualify for the third consecutive tournament, the 1986 FIFA World Cup,
  • Does the head-to-head table need a caption? Feel like this is a requirement of
    MOS:DTT
    .
    The tables have a hidden caption as it is the same as the section heading, as noted by Harris in an earlier review.
  • These Football Times should be italicised as the article uses italics.

That's all from me. NapHit (talk) 19:32, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • @NapHit: Thanks for the review, I've amended everything above and left a comment on another. Let me know what you think. Kosack (talk) 07:39, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Support - My concerns have been dealt with. Great list. NapHit (talk) 17:24, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Quick comment – "They needed only to beat Northern Ireland the final game was never played after players refused to travel following an escalation of The Troubles in Ireland." This feels like a run-on sentence in its current form. It probably can be fixed easily enough by adding some connecting words. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:24, 20 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @Giants2008: Fixed. Kosack (talk) 06:37, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source review – Pass

Doing this below Aza24 (talk) 07:08, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting
  • The linking is a bit inconsistent—if you're only linking the first mentions then the Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation should be linked in the statistics section; Y Lolfa could be linked as well
Reliability
  • No issues here
Verifiability
  • Seems fine, checked 5 and 10
  • Pass for source review, since the linking issue(s) aren't pertinent enough to prevent a pass, though you may want to address them anyways. Aza24 (talk) 07:08, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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