Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/log/July 2014

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The list was kept by SchroCat 14:49, 11 July 2014 [1].

Miley Cyrus discography

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I am nominating this for featured list removal because Miley Cyrus discography is a featured list now but i feel it should be at least reassessed if not removed as a featured list. There is a discussion about merging Hannah Montana discography with it. Thus the article is not stable and i support that Hannah Montana discography should be merged. Presently the Miley Cyrus discography also mentions some of the work as hannah montana. So either they should be separate completely or merged. Moreover you see 4 references that don't work due to incorrect use of reference names and at the top there is a tag that suggests a problem with the length of the article lead. In my opinion till these issues are not solve this article should not be rated as a featured list because these are supposed to be free of such issues. Abhinav0908 (talk) 05:12, 30 May 2014 (UTC) Ipodnano05[reply]

Oppose If another article is being considered for merging with a featured article, it doesn't in any way make the featured article eligible for reassessment.--Shane Cyrus (talk) 15:37, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There are other reasons too. have a look at it.Abhinav0908 (talk) 18:16, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done All these issues have been taken care of, so no need of reassessment.--Shane Cyrus (talk) 12:39, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delist. Fails first and the second criteria of features lists. — Status (talk · contribs) 18:10, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delist lead is inadequate.
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Done Made the lede neutral.--Shane Cyrus (talk) 05:12, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Shane Cyrus Its nice that you are helping the article to stay as a featured list but still there are a few problems. The lead mentions four studio albums, one live album, one compilation album, two remix albums, five soundtrack albums, one extended play (EP), twenty-six singles, ten promotional singles, two video albums, and eleven music videos but there is no coverage for the soundtrack and remix albums in the infobox and lists. Meet Miley Cyrus is listed as a studio album (the first one) but it is not counted in the lead.Abhinav0908 (talk) 08:12, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Someone had bymistakenly added some work credited to HM. Anyways removed now. Anything else?--Shane Cyrus (talk) 09:48, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bangerz is listed as 4th but mentioned as third in the lead.Abhinav0908 (talk) 17:54, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And Shane Cyrus just to notify you the lead has changed again. It is to big now. Now the infobox and lead mention sountracks but they are not included in the lists below. The singles from Hannah Montana movie create a doubt in my mind on their inclusion. The issues have increased again. Seems their is no consensus on what should be included in the list and lead and what should not be included.Abhinav0908 (talk) 19:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You reverted that but no sources to the release dates are provided and the line about planning an acoustic album needs source too.Abhinav0908 (talk) 19:33, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved the Bangerz issue. You don't use sources for what is covered in the article's body. The release dates are covered in the body. I added a source for "plans to release an acoustic album".--Shane Cyrus (talk) 05:29, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but the dates are not sourced in the body too.Abhinav0908 (talk) 07:03, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They don't need to be sourced. See featured discographies like Lady Gaga discography or Jessica Simpson discography.--Shane Cyrus (talk) 10:11, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment; I am not too familiar with the criteria for discography FLs (I've only worked on lists of recorded songs), although I've rewritten the introduction for this article because that seems to be a particular area of concern based on this discussion. If there is any way I can help avoid having the article delisted, please let me know and I will do my best to remedy the concerns. Thanks, WikiRedactor (talk) 16:59, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am confused about the singles from "Hannah montana the movie". We have a separate page for Hannah Montana discographyso i feel they shouldn't be included here.Abhinav0908 (talk) 17:58, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Abhinav0908: I mentioned in the introduction that Miley recorded two songs as herself for the soundtrack; they would not be included in the Hannah Montana discography article because the songs themselves are credited to Miley and not Hannah. WikiRedactor (talk) 17:54, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes, I missed that. It seems okay now.Abhinav0908 (talk) 17:59, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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XXSNUGGUMSXX: I see that you both agreed that the article should be delisted before I rewrote the current version of the introduction; if you wouldn't mind taking a look at this version and leaving some feedback, I would greatly appreciate it. WikiRedactor (talk) 20:20, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply
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WikiRedactor, I applaud your work in revising the lead. When I first came across this, it was definitely not broad. Shane did expand it, though. Looks much better now, but still isn't quite up to par. Here's some things I'd change:

"The discography of American recording artist Miley Cyrus consists of four"..... quite a mouthful, try something like "American entertainer Miley Cyrus has released"
Done

In regards to Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus, just have that as one title. The fact that it's a double album should still be noted, though. I'll let you improvise on this one as I'm not quite sure how to rewrite it myself.
Done

Make note of the charting for 7 Things.
Done

Have Billboard and "Hot 100" linked separately.
Done

Text reads that Can't Be Tamed was less commercially successful than her previous material, but I'm not too sure it charted the month it was released.
Done

I'm not sure what Status thinks now, but there's my 2¢.

talk • contributions) 20:43, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply

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XXSNUGGUMSXX: Thanks so much for your comments, I've made the changes you have outlined above. WikiRedactor (talk) 23:59, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply

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You're quite welcome, though let's wait for others' thoughts.

talk • contributions) 00:04, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply

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At the moment the list fine enough to retain the as a FL. I don't find any more problems.Abhinav0908 (talk) 05:08, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Abhinav0908: Thank you for taking another look at the article, I appreciate your time! WikiRedactor (talk) 19:05, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah now it can be kept.